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Dune: The Machine Crusade (Legends of Dune Series #2)

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  • Anonymous

    Posted December 3, 2006

    Go read Dune again. Don't waste your time here.

    I am a huge fan of the original trilogy having read it numerous times. I disliked this and the previous book on the Butlarian Jihad. The story goes no where. Characters appear and disappear for no reason. Over a thousand pages covering two books and they STILL cannot finish the story?? If you are a fan of the Original trilogy or the God Emperor books, don't bother with this or the previous book. They are both a waste of time. If you must read them, do it to just cement in your head how great an author Frank Herbert really was.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted July 9, 2004

    A great book

    to me this book was really good. And it doesnt really deserve all of the 1 stars it got down there. O and by the the to the guy who wrote something about the dune encyclopedia down their. You do know what history is dont you? versions of a story can be blown out of proportion in 10 thousand bloody years and on top of that you said the encylopedia wasnt written by Frank Herbert it was only made because he said they could make it. So to any one who is reading this stop reading this and read this book. Start with the Butlerian Jihad firs though

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  • Anonymous

    Posted March 21, 2004

    On a par with the Star Wars Prequels

    10 years of preliminary work preceded Frank Herbert's writing of Dune, and it shows. He wrote the six Dune novels over a period of 20 years, and it shows. Now Kevin J. Anderson and Brian Herbert are trying to write six Dune novels over a period of 4 years, and guess what? That shows too. If you think these new Star Wars prequels are super-fantastic, then this book is right up your alley. If not, well...

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  • Anonymous

    Posted January 28, 2004

    Did the authors read this after the cobbled the pieces together.

    I am a big fan of the FH's Dune (and sequels). I also enjoyed the 'House' prequel trilogy. But, I have big issues with this second book of the 'Jihad' trilogy. It is quite obvious that the authors cobbled this together from bits and pieces that each had written. It is also quite evident that none of the authors, editors, etc. read this book in it's entirety. In the first 100 pages they bludgeon you with events from the first book. Yes many people might need to be reminded of what happened in the preceeding book, but we don't have to be told about the event three or four time with int three or four pages. This got so bad that I started to keep track of them. By the time I got to page 300 I stopped, there were just too many. Examples: On Pg 106 & Pg 108 repeated references to Cogitor Eklo. We are constantly reminded why Iblis married Camie. I got that the first time. On page 310 & 311 Vorian volunteered to do the foot work for Serena's new plans. It says 'Even before Xavier returned from Ix.' But in the previous chapter Xaview is sitting and the Jihad council table when Serena outlines her plans. I suggest that the authors pay more attention to what they're doing in the third book (which I intend to read) and the two post FH books there working on. The other book Dune books BH & KJA have written have been much better than this. I agree with the comment about the 'Encycopeadia Dune', but I don't know the full detail of licensing, copyrights, etc. that may have nesseccitated changes. I hope the authors do a better job on the next books, at least produce something up to there usual standards.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted November 20, 2003

    An Afront to Dune readers

    This book is a slaughter of the universe Brian Herbert¿s father, Frank Herbert, created. I have read all Frank Herbert's Dune series only once and I can point our many mistakes in The Machine Crusade. In its own right the book was not bad if it had been writing and read without any knowledge of the original books, but I have read them and this is not the way things should be. For one, I am assuming the Sorceresses of Rossak will become the Benigeserit (I miss spelled that sorry), but the Sisters DO NOT HAVE TELEPATHIC POWERS. This is clearly stated in the original books and is disappointing that Brian would put this in just to please readers. Also the biggest flaw is Tio Holzman. Holzman lived on the planet IX.He has been described as a selfless inventor that locked him self away for months at times to create his inventions. Many times he would have to be hospitalized after such ordeals, and only lived to 33. Holzman also had a wife and seven children before he died. In this book Holzman is selfish and arrogant, more a politician then a scientist. When he dies he is not married, has no children, and is well into his 50's. Also the greatest mistake is Norma Cenva. NO person has the ability to remake their body from nothing, not even in the last books of Frank Herbert¿s. Also she is not the creator of the Holzman engines, Tio Holzman is. Also the ship yards aren¿t even on IX as they should be. All in all this book was a true failer to any real Dune reader.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted November 24, 2003

    What book are you all reading?

    I gave the 'The Butlerian Jihad' a chance due to the previous three part Dune prequal being decently crafted (but still not up to the DUNE level of complexity). So I once again gave 'The Machine Crusade' a chance and found it wnating on multiple levels. First of all the characters are all drawn as deep as a layer of paint. We get no depth of character or development of individual personas. The characters are all just stereotypes that populate a boring world. The stories pacing is erratic and uneven. First nothing happens, then nothing much happens, then a little happens, and finally we kill off half the established (plainly speaking, the characters do nothing for over 600 pages pages and then everything happens in roughly 70 pages. Where is the story pacing? Where is the character development? Where is the richly crafted universe of Dune that Frank Herbert created?). And for what reason do we kill these characters off. The only killing that I can understand in that of Serena. She is killed so as to re-establish the Jihad's fury. But why kill Aurelius, Zufu and Hecate in such a way that accomplishes nothing and does not advance the story one centimeter. And then why do we kill Xavier and Iblis when their personal struggle against each other could be a true tempest in the final book. And finally, why o' why kill off Jool with a tidal wave. He was the one character who seemed to have been written beyond the superficial level that each and every other characters had been developed in the book. I can only surmise that the authors where at a loss as to how to develop the charaters and the story arc and took the easy way out by eliminating the charaters. A very poor book based in the outstanding world created by Frank Herbert

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