The Christian Atheist: Believing in God but Living as If He Doesn't Exist

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“The more I looked, the more I found Christian Atheists everywhere.”

Former Christian Atheist Craig Groeschel knows his subject all too well. After over a decade of successful ministry, he had to make a painful self admission: although he believed in God, he was leading his church like God didn’t exist.

To Christians and non-Christians alike, to the churched and the unchurched, the journey leading up to Groeschel’s admission and the journey that follows—from his family and his ...

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Overview

“The more I looked, the more I found Christian Atheists everywhere.”

Former Christian Atheist Craig Groeschel knows his subject all too well. After over a decade of successful ministry, he had to make a painful self admission: although he believed in God, he was leading his church like God didn’t exist.

To Christians and non-Christians alike, to the churched and the unchurched, the journey leading up to Groeschel’s admission and the journey that follows—from his family and his upbringing to the lackluster and even diametrically opposed expressions of faith he encountered—will look and sound like the story of their own lives.

Now the founding and senior pastor of the multicampus, pace-setting LiveChurch.tv, Groeschel personal journey toward a more authentic God-honoring life is more relevant than ever.

Christians and Christian Atheists everywhere will be nodding their heads as they are challenged to take their own honest moment and ask the question: am I putting my whole faith in God but still living as if everything was up to me?

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  • ISBN-13: 9780310332220
  • Publisher: Zondervan
  • Publication date: 3/31/2011
  • Pages: 256
  • Sales rank: 95,558
  • Product dimensions: 5.90 (w) x 7.90 (h) x 0.80 (d)

Meet the Author

New York Times bestselling author Craig Groeschel is the founding and senior pastor of LifeChurch.tv, a pacesetting multicampus church and creators of the popular and free YouVersion Bible App. He is the author of several books, including Fight, Altar Ego, Soul Detox, Weird, The Christian Atheist, and It. Craig, his wife, Amy, and their six children live in Edmond, Oklahoma.

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The Christian Atheist

Believing in God but Living As If He Doesn't Exist
By Craig Groeschel

Zondervan

Copyright © 2010 Craig Groeschel
All right reserved.

ISBN: 978-0-310-32789-9


Chapter One

When You Believe in God but Don't Really Know Him

"Craig, you ought to meet this girl. She's weird like you. I mean, she's a God fanatic. She's, like, way overboard for God."

"Weird like you" wasn't in my top-ten qualities to look for in a girl, but enough people were telling me about Amy that I had to meet her. I was a senior in college and praying daily to meet someone equally passionate about Christ. From all reports, Amy was everything I had dreamed of and more.

Our relationship began with several phone calls before we finally met in person. Someone told Amy I resembled Tom Cruise. When she opened the door and saw me for the first time, her expectant smile faltered. I guess I don't look exactly like Maverick from Top Gun. (But I do have dark hair and a big nose.)

That night we attended a Bible study that Amy led for high-school girls. She was amazing, and all of the love cliches I had heard about over the years happenedto me. When she prayed for "her girls," heaven seemed to open. When she sang songs of worship, time stood still. Every time she looked in my direction, I simultaneously praised God and melted. She was funny, loyal, and sincere. Not to mention, on a scale of one to ten, she was a 498 million. (Still is.) I remember thinking, God, you are good. Nice work.

Overflowing with anticipation, I was constantly trying to make a good impression, to present my best Craig. I wore my newest shirts, put on extra cologne, cleaned out my car, and created the perfect mix tape (packed with the latest combination of Christian music and 1980s love songs). But more than that, I tried to make sure I was spiritually on my best game, praying constantly to treat her with honor and purity.

Six months after I first met Amy, I proposed to her at church in front of all our loved ones. (Thankfully she said yes; otherwise, it would have been awkward.) Five months later we got married.

That was nineteen years ago, and our marriage is now officially old enough to move out and go to college. During all those years, I've come to know Amy better than I know any other person in the world. If there are forty women in a room all talking at once, I can pick out her voice. If I walk into a crowded lobby, with people all crushed together, my eyes find hers instantly. I know her scent, and a single whiff of it will make me think about her for the rest of the day. I know her favorite color, her favorite song, her favorite meal, which of my shirts she likes best.

Despite how completely we know each other-even after nearly two decades-our intimacy continues to grow. We're constantly learning how to connect and communicate deeply. I can practically read her mind. A situation will arise when she's not there, and I know exactly what Amy would do. I know her values. I know how she processes decisions.

The two of us share a history-stories, experiences, and lots of kids. We love each other. We believe in each other.

In short, we know each other.

Believing versus Knowing

A recent Gallup poll reported that 94 percent of Americans claim to believe in God or a universal spirit. However, a quick glance at Scripture and our culture makes it plainly obvious that nowhere near 94 percent actually know God. I mean, really know him-intimately. Belief isn't the same as personal knowledge. For many people, the very idea that you could know God on a relational level seems unlikely, unrealistic, unattainable.

Part of the confusion stems from failure to recognize the different levels of intimacy when it comes to knowing God.

Some of us know God by reputation, as when we hear about a certain girl or guy from a close friend. We may know a bit about God-perhaps we've been to church a few times, we've heard some Bible stories, or we have a favorite Bible verse on a refrigerator magnet. But it's only secondhand.

Some of us know God in our memories. We've truly experienced his goodness, grace, and love in the past. Like when I recently bumped into an old college buddy. Twenty years ago, we were inseparable. We took classes together, played sports together, and met Christ together. After we graduated, we lost touch. I knew him years ago, but I can't say that I know him now.

And some of us know God intimately. Right here, right now.

This is the kind of loving knowledge that God promises when we seek him (see Deut. 4:29; Jer. 29:13; Matt. 7:7-8; Acts 17:27). When we are thirsty for God, God will satisfy that longing. And as we continue to seek God, we'll grow to know him more and more intimately. When we hear God's voice, we'll recognize it instantly. We'll talk to God all the time and miss him when circumstances distract us from his presence. We'll build a history together, storing up story after story of shared experiences.

We'll love God. We'll trust God.

We'll know God.

Not Knowing God

Maybe you're thinking, I believe in God. Isn't that enough? I mean, a lot of people don't believe in God, but I do. Isn't that what he wants from me? Those are fair questions. But believing in God isn't all he wants from us. The book of James says that even the demons believe in God, and yet they tremble because they know that they're relationally separated from him (James 2:19). Obviously, there is more to the whole Christian thing than just believing in God.

Growing up, my family was what I'd call "cultural Christians." We'd go to church on Christmas and Easter. We'd help a neighbor in need. We'd donate canned goods to food drives. We'd pray at Thanksgiving meals. But that was basically the extent of it. Even though I believed in God, all I knew was about him-and very little of that. I didn't know him. And because I didn't know him the way best friends or spouses know each other, I lived according to my own rules.

My very actions revealed my lack of intimate knowledge of God. According to 1 John 2:3-4, "We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, 'I know him,' but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him." A little harsh? I prefer to think of it as straightforward and honest. Truthfully spoken by someone who truly cares and wants what's best for us.

We need to keep in mind that God's commands are loving. What God asks his children to do-like pursue justice, love mercy, live humbly (see Mic. 6:8)-is what we want to do anyway, at least in our best moments. We are created to be living examples of God's love to a hurting world.

God cares about how we live. And a relationship with God naturally will flow out in daily attitudes and actions. So if you look good, you are good, right? Well, maybe not. Knowing God can lead to a positive lifestyle, but the reverse isn't true. Our outward actions alone don't prove that we enjoy an inward relationship with God. Just because we do good doesn't mean we know the One who is good. Like when I first met Amy, I didn't know her at first, but I was trying to get to know her. If I didn't make any effort, we'd never really know each other. We need to make an effort to get to know God.

God is interested not only in our actions but also in our hearts-in particular, our attitude toward him. Do our good works overflow from knowing him? Or do we live as though God is simply watching and checking our accomplishments off some heavenly to-do list? Did you get a star for going to church? Being nice? Giving money to charity? Some of us try to earn God's acceptance without truly knowing his heart. And after life is over, Jesus will say to such individuals, "You wanted no part of a relationship with me. Go away." (See Matt. 7:21-23.)

Countless well-intentioned people believe in God but don't know him personally. Many of us look the part. Or we think we're Christians because, you know, it's not like we're Buddhists.

We believe in God, but our lives don't reflect who he really is.

Not Knowing God Well

Have you ever heard of George Brett, the legendary third baseman who played for the Kansas City Royals? When I was a kid, I collected every George Brett baseball card ever made and knew everything about his career.

In 1988, I played in the NAIA National Tennis Championship in Kansas City. On a walk downtown, I saw George Brett sitting at an outdoor cafe. I couldn't stop myself-I walked right up to him, extended my hand, and said, "I know this happens to you all the time. I'm so sorry. I just had to tell you, you're the man! In 1980, you batted .390-you almost batted over .400-which would have broken Ted Williams' record from back in 1941. You had 118 RBIs in only 117 games. You're the man!" (A bit repetitive, I know, but I was nervous.)

Now, I didn't actually know George Brett, but I knew information about him. And I had heard that he was cocky and rude. What I experienced, however, was quite the opposite.

"You know all that about me?" he asked.

"Oh, I'm just getting started."

"That's amazing. Why don't you sit with us? Let's talk for a few minutes." And he pulled up a chair.

After we had talked for about fifteen minutes, George asked, "So, what brings you to Kansas City?" I told him that I was playing in the big tennis tournament the next day. He congratulated me and said, "You know what? You've watched me all these years. I'll try to come out and watch you play tomorrow."

The next day, I won the National Tennis title ... with George Brett cheering me on from the very front row. (Cue dream scene fade-out and ethereal musical sounds.)

Okay, so that didn't really happen, though it would have been a great ending to this story. The reality is that George didn't show, and I lost in the second round and went home crushed.

Technically, I could say that I know George Brett because of our single encounter. But it's obvious I don't really know him. If you were to remind him about our encounter in Kansas City, he might not remember at all.

Now let's rewind the history tape a couple thousand years. When the apostle Paul wrote his letter to the Galatians (Jesus-followers who lived in the region of Galatia, modern-day Turkey), they had experienced the real, living God but had recently become trapped in legalism. They knew God, but not well enough to avoid getting sucked back into a life based in the law, rather than in love. In Galatians 4:8-9, Paul wrote, "Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods. But now that you know God-or rather are known by God-how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?"

Paul essentially was saying, "You know God, but not well enough to avoid your old habits-the attitudes that hurt you and your closeness to God." In the twenty-first century, we would be wise to ask ourselves, "Is this us too?"

Maybe we "sort of" know God. Maybe sometime in the past we've prayed and asked Jesus to transform our lives. Maybe we have a basic understanding of God. Maybe, once, we genuinely felt close to him. But we don't know him well now.

Knowing God Intimately

Finally, there are those people who know God intimately and serve him with their whole hearts. For me, I know this is happening when I'm becoming increasingly aware of God's presence within me, his provision, his power, and his peace. I don't feel like God's "out there," waiting for me to direct a prayer his way every now and then. It's more like an ongoing conversation: "Hi, God. Hey listen, what do you think of this?" Then I honestly believe God speaks to me through his written Word and by his Spirit.

It's like somehow my spirit is connected to him, and I can hear what he's saying. There's kind of a buzz, a constant conscious awareness that as my day unfolds, God is orchestrating things and sending people into my life. That's doing life with God.

At other times, God may not feel as close. But by faith, I know he is with me. No matter what I feel, I hold the assurance that God never leaves me. And he won't leave you.

The psalmist David describes in Psalm 63:1-4 his relationship with God. In fact, he says that his experience of knowing the personal God creates a deeper longing for even more intimate knowledge of God. Verse 1 begins, "O God, you are my God." You're not somebody else's God, that I've just heard about. You're my God.

David continues, "Earnestly I seek you; my soul thirsts for you, my body longs for you, in a dry and weary land where there is no water." In this world, there's nothing that satisfies me. I'm hungry, I eat, and then later I'll be hungry again. Only God can totally satisfy. I love you so much, God, that I ache for you. I need more of you.

Have you ever felt that kind of love for someone? When you're apart, you can't wait to be with them again. When I'm away from Amy, I can't wait to hear her voice again. Imagine that with God.

The psalmist continues, "I have seen you in the sanctuary and beheld your power and your glory." I've seen you. I know you. I recognize you on sight. I know what you're like. Your unbounded might and majesty, the sunburst of your splendor, your beauty-these are greater than anything I could ever imagine or describe.

Verse 3 says, "Because your love is better than life, my lips will glorify you." Better than life? He's saying, If I had the choice-either keep God's love and see my mortal body die, or lose his love and live-I would choose to die.

Next verse: "I will praise you as long as I live, and in your name I will lift up my hands." I'll never be the same. I'm so transformed, so overwhelmed by you, I'm unashamed to do anything to express myself to you. I can't keep my hands at my sides. I'm going to reach them out toward you. I'm going to smile. I'm going to throw my head back and bask in your magnificent glory.

It's All in the name

Most Bible historians agree that David also wrote Psalm 9:10, which says in reference to God, "Those who know your name will trust in you." What do you call God? The way you address him or refer to him just might reveal the depth of your intimacy. Or lack of it.

Let me illustrate. What you call me clearly reveals how well you know me-or whether you know me at all. My phone rings. I answer. You're on the other end, and you say, "Good afternoon, Mr. Gress-shuhl. I'd like to talk to you about your phone service."

I can tell one thing right away: You don't know me. You don't even know how to pronounce my name!

Or my wife and I are in a restaurant, and I give the hostess my name while we're waiting for a table. After a few minutes, the hostess calls out, "Grow-SHELL, party of two!" The hostess knows my name and how to pronounce it. But we've just met. We don't know each other.

If you call me "Pastor Craig," chances are you might know a little about me. You know what I do, maybe you've heard me speak, and maybe you're familiar with some of my favorite topics and my up-front personality. But your use of my title doesn't mean that you know me personally.

You might just call me "Craig," and I'd usually assume that you know me even better. My friends call me Craig. We're close.

But if you call me "Groesch," that means we've been friends for a long time. It means we've got stories. (And you've promised not to tell them.) "Groesch" dates us back at least twenty years.

Then there are those who possess exclusive rights to a few specialized, far more intimate forms of address. These are the six beautiful, small people, very dear to me, whom I allow to climb up in my lap. They rub their hands on my face and say things like "You need to shave" and "You're the best" and "Can I have some candy?" They call me "Daddy." They know me so much better than even those who call me "Groesch." The name reveals the intimacy.

What do you call God? The Big Guy in the Sky? The Man upstairs? Dear eight-pound, six-ounce Baby Jesus? Then you don't know him. Those titles may be clever or funny, but they certainly aren't intimate.

(Continues...)



Excerpted from The Christian Atheist by Craig Groeschel Copyright © 2010 by Craig Groeschel . Excerpted by permission.
All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.
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Table of Contents

A Letter to the Reader 11

Introduction: A Recovering Christian Atheist 17

Chapter 1 When You Believe in God but Don't Really Know Him 29

Chapter 2 When You Believe in God but Are Ashamed of Your Past 45

Chapter 3 When You Believe in God but Aren't Sure He Loves You 57

Chapter 4 When You Believe in God but Not in Prayer 73

Chapter 5 When You Believe in God but Don't Think He's Fair 91

Chapter 6 When You Believe in God but Won't Forgive 111

Chapter 7 When You Believe in God but Don't Think You Can Change 123

Chapter 8 When You Believe in God but Still Worry All the Time 143

Chapter 9 When You Believe in God but Pursue Happiness at Any Cost 161

Chapter 10 When You Believe in God but Trust More in Money 175

Chapter 11 When You Believe in God but Don't Share Your Faith 193

Chapter 12 When You Believe in God but Not in His Church 215

Afterword: Third Line Faith 233

Acknowledgments 241

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  • Posted June 14, 2011

    An absolute must for every Christian

    Quite possibly the best book, besides the Bible, that I have ever read. Craig hit home, in every chapter, about issues I have and have had in my walk with the Lord. If there was any book that I would recommend to a Christian - this is it. Be ready, because he calls up out (including himself) for not being 100% God focused. Through this book, I have made several major changes in my life. One of the keys, drop resentments in your life. Wow - if I could do this 24/7, what a life I could live serving as Lord. Please, please, please, take the opportunity to read The Christian Atheist.

    5 out of 7 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted September 7, 2010

    A Personal Challenge

    I bought this book because I was curious to read what Craig had to say on the topic. I had been at a point in my life where I know I hadn't been living for God but I had since grown out of that phase...or so I thought. This book really humbled me on a multitude of levels and I don't hesitate in the least in recommending it to anyone. He does a great job at expressing his own shortcomings (even at the present time), providing the reader with tools on how to overcome their shortcomings and even with such a seemingly serious topic, he is able to add humor to the mix. I've never been a huge fan of reading but I truly loved this book and think everyone could benefit from reading it. :)

    4 out of 5 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted May 8, 2010

    I Also Recommend:

    Could the Health of your Faith use a check-up? This book may show you where you need healing.

    I have been aware for quite a while now that it is very difficult to tell any difference between professing Christians and non-Christians. I also know that it is not all that easy to tell any difference in my life.
    In this book many aspects of life are explored in light of faith. I would venture to guess that everyone could find at least one chapter that would make a real difference in their walk with God. As for myself, one chapter in particular brought me to tears.
    I know God loves us all, but I have never been sure He loved me. It stems from a childhood where I never felt my own father loved me. This book helped me to realize what was faulty in my thinking.
    In sharing some of the topics in this book with my friends they all had reactions to different chapters and ideas.
    I was impressed with the way the author honestly shared how he became aware each of the areas lacking in his own life. It reinforces the fact that the best witness for God is to tell your own personal story.

    4 out of 4 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted May 5, 2010

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    The Christian Atheist Is A Worthy Read

    Pastor and Author Craig Groeschel makes the point of The Christian Atheist abundantly clear that too many people who willing and readily call themselves Christian live life as thought they had no thought of God or Jesus at any point. Truth is it is clear and easy to call once a Chrisitan but never arrange life in a way that is meaningful and changing. To the experienced Christian reader there is not much in the way of shocking new information but the information provided is packaged very well and presented in a delightful format and organization. He is also very detailed in his own Christian Atheistic behaviors throughout his life. I would recommend this book to anyone who wonders why nothing has changed since they became Christian or thought Christianity didn't work for them. This book reveals some things we do to limit the effectiveness of the Christian life. This book is definetly worthy of the time investment to read it and is a great purchase for the money. Great gift idea and a good library book.

    3 out of 3 people found this review helpful.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted December 31, 2012

    Omg

    My dad made me reed this i wont dut i can tell he ben on my nook he ben reeding this

    2 out of 18 people found this review helpful.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted February 16, 2012

    Highly recommended

    My Bible study group chose this book as it's winter/spring topic. The problem I have is containing my reading to the bi-weekly assignment. The book is so good I want to read it to its finish. Control, control, control. The author shares many of his life experiences, mixes it with good humor, and personal insights. It's a great Nook book and is easy to follow on the Nook during discussion. I've had no trouble keeping up with the "book readers".

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  • Posted April 14, 2011

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    Get it, get challenged, get closer to God!

    I use to hate reading Christian literture and I allowed this book to be my final try. I wanted some challenges and encouragement from a some great Christian author. . .and this is the book and author! Craig will surely challenge you, encourage you, and show you how to grow closer to God. Stop thinking about it and just buy the book already!!

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  • Anonymous

    Posted April 17, 2010

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    Sounds A Lot Like Crazy Love

    I thought the author did a good job of tying his personal experiences into the book which allows readers to see his very-real human side. The book is inspiring, but does sound a lot like Crazy Love by Francis Chan. I enjoyed Crazy Love much more.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted October 25, 2013

    Believe in God but act like he doesn't exist?

    We are not called to "go to church" but to BE the church and demonstrate Christ's love as he has for us.

    We must abandon worry and seek to serve others. We are not here to seek happiness, but to love and serve others. By doing so, we are serving God.

    Great book! I am both challenged and encouraged.

    1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted February 22, 2013

    Highly Recommended

    GREAT READ...simple and informative. Short and to the point. Love the humor. Can read any chapter at any time. Thinking about getting it on hard copy.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted November 28, 2012

    Life changing

    I laughed and cried through this whole book. Very good eye opener and life changing.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted November 27, 2011

    Amazing

    I absolutely loved this book. It really helped me take a good look at my life and see the ways in which I did not display a hood Christian standard. I would recommend this book to anyone who truly wants to live for Christ!

    1 out of 3 people found this review helpful.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted August 18, 2011

    Good Read!

    Really hits the rights spots! Very true. Something all of us should read and learn to follow.

    1 out of 2 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted May 27, 2011

    Im a non reader and i couldnt put it down!!!!!!

    This book truly amazing! I am not much of a book reader but mu churh was reading so i thought a few chapters a week that go alog with our service. Why not... well turns out i have read the entire book and our church is half way thru. The entire book hit every topic head on. Craig does a great job at using biblical references to help you thru each topic! You must read this book i promise nnot all topice will be easy to read, and theybsure wernt for me, but it is great! I chllenge all readers and no readers alike to read this amazing book by Crig!!!!!!!

    1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.

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  • Posted September 27, 2010

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    Great book!!!

    Hit the nail on the head. Many Christians, to include myself, often lead a lifestyle that does not reflect how Christ lived. Instead of just allowing the reader to feel convicted, the author gives the reader encouragement to change and lead a lifestyle that will not be as damaging to their testimony. A great read also for new Christians.

    1 out of 2 people found this review helpful.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted April 16, 2014

    Craig, helps you to truly open up your heart and define your rel

    Craig, helps you to truly open up your heart and define your relationship with God! I love how he take the thought of knowing God but living as if He doesn't exist, what a profound conviction?! I think everyone could be guilty as charged on this subject. Must read wither you believe you are strong in your faith or you really don't know if God exists. The Christian Atheist, will penetrate your heart and cause you too question how you are living! I would recommend this book to anyone. 

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  • Anonymous

    Posted January 18, 2014

    God doesn't exist

    There is no God. Read or watch some Stephen Hawking. Evolution. Science. It all makes sense; there is no creation, or reincarnation. Get a life, and don't rely on things that aren't there.

    0 out of 4 people found this review helpful.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted March 12, 2013

    Great book

    Love the author's great sense of humor!

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  • Anonymous

    Posted February 25, 2013

    I loved this book. It was a great read.

    I loved this book. It was a great read.

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  • Anonymous

    Posted February 24, 2013

    Superb

    Boy, this truly hit home. Well written and brutally honest.

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