Forever

Forever

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by Puff Daddy
     
 

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As the follow-up to 1997's hip-pop blowout NO WAY OUT, the latest from Sean "Puffy" Combs at first plays like the sexy, star-studded revue you'd expect from a man who's gone from the top of the charts to the height of the Hamptons. Cuts like the compu-poppin' "What You Want" and "I'll Do This for You" capture the bubbly bounce Puffy

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As the follow-up to 1997's hip-pop blowout NO WAY OUT, the latest from Sean "Puffy" Combs at first plays like the sexy, star-studded revue you'd expect from a man who's gone from the top of the charts to the height of the Hamptons. Cuts like the compu-poppin' "What You Want" and "I'll Do This for You" capture the bubbly bounce Puffy patented on hits like "Can't Nobody Hold Me Down." But at its heart, FOREVER is a letter from the edge, a mercurial missive in which the paranoid P-Diddy hears terrifying voices and sees visions of death and doom. Throughout, Puffy leads us and an A-list cast of cameo stars (Lil' Kim, Busta Rhymes, Jay-Z, Bizzy Bone, Cee-Lo, and, from the Great Beyond, the Notorious B.I.G.) into a dark drama where every move might be your last and every homey is a hater at heart. The subterranean soul of "I Hear Voices" sounds like something Tricky could wrap his coarse vocal cords around, while the rugged, hectic "P.E. 2000" turns Public Enemy's classic into Puffy's last stand against hordes of betrayers and wannabe gangstas. The film-noir vibe is interrupted only for "Best Friend," a love letter to the single playa hater Puffy dare not mess with, the Lord Himself, set to a sample of Christopher Cross's billowy, powder-puff classic "Sailing." It's a brilliant kiss-off to the purists who've mocked his pop crossovers, and it's as surprising, and surprisingly wondrous, as anything he's done.

Editorial Reviews

All Music Guide - Keith Farley
It was never much of a contest, but with his second solo album, Puff Daddy retains his crown as the biggest ego in hip-hop, if not popular music. It's an arrogance that asserts itself in the over 20 pictures included in the album booklet (all with different poses and outfits) and in the opening track -- "Forever (Intro)" -- that updates listeners with all the sordid details of Puffy's personal life. With all this ego strutting around, Puffy's sizable production talents have consistently been underrated. The truth is, he's been one of the best hip-hop producers of the '90s, creator of countless solid party jams, heavy on the groove and quite creative for their crossover potential. Though most of the tracks on Forever are co-productions with young lieutenants from his Bad Boy organization, Puffy's productions shine through. And he's downplayed sampling obvious pop hits for the main groove of his songs, perhaps a response to the constant criticism of hip-hop fans. Puffy's also a better rapper than he used to be, almost up to the level of the MC superstars guesting here. There are no tracks as propulsive as the hits from No Way Out ("It's All About the Benjamins," "Been Around the World"), and the ballad track "Best Friend," which samples Christopher Cross' "Sailing," is a lame rehash of the Biggie tribute "I'll Be Missing You." The final track (and first single), the Public Enemy-sampling "P.E. 2000," is an apt metaphor for Puff Daddy's second album; it's a solid production, not quite as exciting as it should be, informed by a mindset that uses hip-hop as a ladder to pop success and wealth.

Product Details

Release Date:
08/24/1999
Label:
Warner Bros Mod Afw
UPC:
0786127303322
catalogNumber:
73033
Rank:
50728

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Album Credits

Performance Credits

Puff Daddy   Primary Artist
Mark Curry   Vocals
Redman   Vocals
Nas   Vocals
Notorious B.I.G.   Vocals
R. Kelly   Vocals
Gary Bias   Saxophone
Ray Brown   Trumpet
Busta Rhymes   Vocals
A.J. Johnson   Vocals
Mario Winans   Vocals
Carl Thomas   Vocals
Jay-Z   Vocals
Lil' Kim   Vocals
Michael "Patches" Stewart   Trumpet
Twista   Vocals
Kelly Price   Vocals
Reggie C. Young   Trombone
Hurricane G   Vocals
Tim McKasty   Keyboards
Cee Lo Green   Vocals
Sauce Money   Vocals
Bizzy Bone   Vocals
Jack Knight   Background Vocals
Beanie Sigel   Vocals
G. Dep   Vocals
Shyne   Vocals
Joe Hooker   Vocals
Cheri Dennis   Background Vocals

Technical Credits

Notorious B.I.G.   Producer
Sean "Puffy" Combs   Producer,Creative Concept
Kevin Lively   Engineer
Paul Logus   Engineer
Tony Maserati   Engineer
Benny Medina   Management
Michael Patterson   Engineer
Doug Wilson   Engineer
Mario Winans   Programming,Producer
Stan Wood   Engineer
Rasheed Goodlowe   Engineer
Nasheim Myrick   Producer
Deric "D-Dot" Angelettie   Producer
Carlos "6 July" Broady   Producer
Carlton Lynn   Engineer
Jim Janik   Engineer
Scott Kieklak   Engineer
Tom Castle   Engineer
Lynn Montrose   Engineer
Jack Knight   Arranger
Ron "Amen-Ra" Lawrence   Producer
John Horesco   Engineer
Cyrille Taillandier   Engineer
Roger Che   Engineer
Daven "Prestige" Vanderpool   Producer
Jason Webb   Engineer
Janet Feder   Composer
Kenny Meiselas   Legal Advisor
Ariel Borujow   Engineer
Elliot Blakely   Engineer
Marc Pfafflin   Sound Effects

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Forever 3.4 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 5 reviews.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a good CD, because everyone has to like it.
Guest More than 1 year ago
There's only a couple of good songs here. I got the album free from Puffy himself and was kinda dissapointed. He's not a lyricist and his beats are too many samples that ain't that hot. I like PE 2000, but the album as a whole aint all that. He is too much fake gangsta and playa on this album, contradicting his supposedly positive vibe. He gets way too fake on this one.
Guest More than 1 year ago
My Headline says it all. Don't buy this album
Guest More than 1 year ago
Puffy's rappin' on 'no way out' was helped along with the presence of the Notorious B.I.G. On 'forever' however, Puffy does it better without Biggie. Though Biggie puts in an explosive appearance on Real Niggas, this is by no way one of the best tracks. Tracks such as 'Is This The End 11', 'Satisfy You' and 'I'll Do This For You', are all prime examples of Puffy's solo genius. Every track is pure quality and features some fantastic cameo appearances by Twista and Bizzy Bone. Puffy blends a subtle mix of smooth R'n'B rap and up tempo rap to give both aspects of the multi-talented rap star. Forever is quite different from no Way Out which really shows how rap has changed over the years. On Best Friend, with Mario Winans, Puffy delivers a fabulous song which shows rap isn't all about drive-bys and drugs. The song is dedicated to Jesus and I hope all rap critics hear this song as a voice for the new generation of Hip-Hop. If you ever doubted Puffy's ability without Biggie for one minute, listen to forever and you'll be eating your words. This album shows Puffy, with or without Biggie, is still one of the kings of Hip-Hop. The only way I can sum up this album is, buy now!!!
Guest More than 1 year ago
Though definitely not his best CD, overall Diddy does a pretty good job. If someone had been able to convince him to leave off the drunken, rambling, "Diddy Speaks" interlude, the boring "I Hear Voices" and what could arguably be one of the worst songs ever made, "PE 2000" I might have given this review the 5th star. Still the other tracks more than make up for the few glitches. My favorites include "I'll Do This For You" (which sounds a little laced with Mase), "Pain" (a bit reminiscent of Slick Rick's "Children Story" and clearly a song he wrote when he was entertaining the thought of making George Pelecanos' novel 'King Suckerman' into a feature film) and finally "Angels with Dirty Faces" which has the feel of an explosive action movie packed into under six minutes. As a final point, I couldn't review this without mentioning the absolutely hilarious "Player-Haters Hotline" interlude. And I have to point out the irony of songs like "Do You Like It... Do You Want It" where he and Jay Z rap about among other things, the ridiculous notion of being involved in crime (Do I need to mention the felony charges they were both facing by the end of December 1999?) and "Reverse" which features Shyne, G-Dep, Cee-Lo, Busta Rhymes and Sauce Money sharing what their lives might be like had they not reached success. For Shyne, at least success didn't make that much of a difference.