Saints & Sinners/John Dawson Winter III

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All Music Guide - Thom Jurek
These two albums -- contained on a single disc -- were released by Columbia in 1974, and marked the beginning of Johnny Winter's creative decline as an artist. He wouldn't rescue himself until he rescued Muddy Waters a few years later. Winter had always been eclectic, always trusted his own or his first handler Steve Paul's direction. On these two records it failed. Big production (by Rick Derringer and engineer Jimmy Iovine) on certain numbers (with strings no less) halted the surge that began with his self-titled debut album. It doesn't mean these records are total losses, there are still some fine moments: Chuck Berry's "Thirty Days" comes off well, as does the nasty, ...
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Editorial Reviews

All Music Guide - Thom Jurek
These two albums -- contained on a single disc -- were released by Columbia in 1974, and marked the beginning of Johnny Winter's creative decline as an artist. He wouldn't rescue himself until he rescued Muddy Waters a few years later. Winter had always been eclectic, always trusted his own or his first handler Steve Paul's direction. On these two records it failed. Big production (by Rick Derringer and engineer Jimmy Iovine) on certain numbers (with strings no less) halted the surge that began with his self-titled debut album. It doesn't mean these records are total losses, there are still some fine moments: Chuck Berry's "Thirty Days" comes off well, as does the nasty, tripped out, bad gumbo called "Dirty," on which Winter plays his old National guitar -- weirdly, the flute solo (yes, flute solo) by his brother Edgar, who plays tons of instruments here works beautifully. This is an absinthe dream of a track, but it's not exactly what most of Winter's fans at the time wanted. The latter recording works a lot better because of its less schizophrenic nature, but it still suffers from FM radio-ready production in places. The hardcore faithful will want this since the individual titles are not available in the U.S., but those seeking out Johnny Winter would be better served by his debut album, or the Johnny Winter And live disc.
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Product Details

  • Release Date: 9/18/2007
  • Label: Bgo - Beat Goes On
  • EAN: 5017261207661
  • Catalog Number: 766
  • Sales rank: 44,534

Album Credits

Performance Credits
Johnny Winter Primary Artist, Guitar, Vocals, Track Performer, Soloist
Rick Derringer Bass, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Rhythm Guitar, Arp Strings
Dan Hartman Bass, Guitar, Bass Guitar, Background Vocals
Kansas Hand Clapping
Bobby Caldwell Percussion, Drums
Tasha Thomas Background Vocals
Randy Brecker Trumpet
Edgar Winter Organ, Piano, Keyboards, Saxophone, Alto Saxophone, Background Vocals, Clavinet, Soloist, Tack Piano, Arp Strings
Lani Groves Background Vocals
Jo Jo Gunne Hand Clapping
Carl Hall Background Vocals
Randy Jo Hobbs Bass, Bass Guitar, Track Performer
Barbara Massey Background Vocals
Alan Rubin Trumpet
Lew Del Gatto Tenor Saxophone
Bobby Caldwell Percussion, Drums
Jo Smith Saxophone
'Sing-Sing""Singers Background Vocals
Richard Hughes Drums, Track Performer
Technical Credits
Chuck Berry Composer
Rick Derringer Producer, Audio Production
Mick Jagger Composer
Steven Paul Advisor
Allan Blazek Engineer
Edgar Winter Introduction
Jimmy Iovine Engineer
Roger Nichols Engineer
Bill Szymczyk Engineer
Andrew Thompson Remastering
Shelly Yakus Producer, Engineer, Audio Production
John Tobler Liner Notes
Karen Lee Grant Contributor
Dan Barbiero Engineer
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  • Posted October 1, 2010

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    Saints and Sinners better than JDWIII

    I must take issue with the editorial reviewer: Saints and Sinners is a wonderful album and shows Johnny in excellect form. The JDWIII album is not up to the standard of Saints and Sinners so I would advise you to look for the single CD of the former album, although there is nothing particularly wrong with the later album, it just isnt a classic like the former one. But this in no way marked any "decline" for Johnny Winter. Remembering what Rock and Roll is all about while all around you are artists who have decided that there was more money in making "pop" songs does not mark any decline in the Quality of Johnny's music. If anything it marked his determination to be faithful to the power of Rock n Roll.

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