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Sense and Sensuality: Jesus Talks to Oscar Wilde on the Pursuit of Pleasure

Sense and Sensuality: Jesus Talks to Oscar Wilde on the Pursuit of Pleasure

by Ravi Zacharias
Why would God create us with such strong appetites for pleasure if He didn't intend for us to indulge them? Oscar Wilde gets to ask Jesus Christ this question in Ravi Zacharias's fictional dialogue -- the second book in the dramatic Great Conversations series. Wilde, a witty author and conversationalist who committed his life to the pursuit of pleasure, is the ideal


Why would God create us with such strong appetites for pleasure if He didn't intend for us to indulge them? Oscar Wilde gets to ask Jesus Christ this question in Ravi Zacharias's fictional dialogue -- the second book in the dramatic Great Conversations series. Wilde, a witty author and conversationalist who committed his life to the pursuit of pleasure, is the ideal person to argue with Jesus about this perplexing issue. The two historical figures think out loud about beauty, Blaise Pascal, and the Bible in a sparkling interchange that will fascinate and enlighten readers.

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Sense and Sensuality

Jesus Talks with Oscar Wilde on the Pursuit of Pleasure

Multnomah Publishers, Inc.

Copyright © 2002 Ravi Zacharias
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ISBN: 1590520149

Oscar Wilde: (Speaking to the nurse after another injection of morphine) Another stab, another momentary respite from hell! You know, I thought living exacted all the pain there was to exact. I didn't know that dying possessed its own stock of torture. Would somebody write to my friend Robbie in London and tell him that I'm dying beyond my means? Tell him to hurry and come.

Robert Ross: I'm here, Oscar. I'm here. I was planning to come later this month, but when I heard how close to death you were, I took the boat over.

Wilde: Thank heavens; I'm so glad you're here. So it all ends in this dilapidated bohemian structure, l'H�tel d'Alsace, 13 Rue des Beaux-Arts. Maybe they should put number thirteen on my hearse. Quite fitting ... the final address for a homeless man. Just look at this place. It tells a story, doesn't it?

Ross: So here in France they call this a suite, eh? But considering you have nothing to pay, I would stomach this if I were you. Although this thick red-velvet curtain around your bed is somewhat like a shroud. I could help tidy up, I suppose, by cleaning up these cheap French-cigarette ashes littering your floor.

Wilde: Don't move any books or papers,Robbie. A room full of papers and books scattered all over is a tribute to a literary mind. And by the way, I like the red.

Ross: I'm glad you haven't completely lost your sarcastic tongue!

Wilde: I'll tell you what ... I'm not sarcastic about that horrid wallpaper with its anemic-looking flowers. One of us has to go, Robbie, either the wallpaper or I.

Ross: Right now it looks like the wallpaper is winning. It's so dark and damp in here. Nothing we can do about it, I guess.

Wilde: Yes, the morgue yawns for me, Robbie. I'd like to take a walk one more time. But I seem to move in and out of reality. I was thinking ... I have tricked my way out of everything; I might work on a plan to trick my way out of death, too. What do you think? Maybe when that trumpet sounds the last judgment, I shall just pretend that I have not heard it.

No, the laughter is dead, I'm afraid. This nausea, this constant spitting of blood. It's awful, Robbie. My throat is a limekiln, my brain a furnace, and my nerves a coil of angry adders.

Can you give me a glass of that absinthe there, please?

Ross: You're not supposed to drink that, Oscar. The doctors have ordered you to stay away from it.

Wilde: Since when have I taken orders from anybody? I simply can't believe they've got this right, that this death-breeding spore has made its way into my spine. Ah! Remorse is but a beggar's refuge.

Ross: What do you mean by "death-breeding spore"?

Wilde: One doctor has finally diagnosed what has brought on this meningitis, you know.

Ross: What is it?

Wilde: What I just said. This is an attack of tertiary syphilis, he says. This death knell hangs over me from that fateful night three decades ago.

Ross: Are you sure?

Wilde: That's what he tells me for now, but how can I be sure? Frankly, I don't think it has anything to do with syphilis. I think it has to do with this deadly pain in my middle ear. The ear surgery for that fall I took in prison has done nothing to help. But when you've lived the way I have, they can get you to believe anything about the aches of your anatomy.

Ross: No doubt.

Wilde: Sometimes I feel like I'm supping with the dead; at other times I feel the Christ I have battled all my life near at hand. Some things I see very clearly-that zinc box readied for me that goes beneath the earth as if to cover up what one really is. At other times my head is overcome by a wave of ghostly personalities seeking to drag me in different directions.

Ross: Should I talk to the nurse about giving you a larger dose of morphine?

Wilde: No. The morphine doesn't work anymore.

Ross: Then why not-

Wilde: Quiet! Please, Robbie! Silence! Don't disturb this vision. Here it comes again! Look at the size of this cemetery! The famed P�re Lachaise, ground for the great. Hundreds of thousands lie beneath. You know, Napoleon opened this cemetery. A whole city of death! Some say about a million. What names, now food for worms-Balzac, Abelard, La Fontaine. None speaking now except ...

Ross: You're slipping away, Oscar. You're not in a cemetery. You're-

Wilde: You know, Napoleon asked to be buried here, too. Maybe ... maybe this spot is reserved for me. But I don't want it here. Bagneux is better, more genteel. You know, I often said that if a man needed a large tombstone in order to remain in the memory of his countrymen, then his living itself would've been an act of absolute superfluity.

I think I see the gardener ... Tell me, sir, will it be a large tombstone?

Ross: Don't go! Oscar!

Wilde: Excuse me, Gardener! Don't walk so fast. Talk to me. Do you tend all these graves yourself?

Are you real, or am I just talking to the wind here? Who are you? I'm not going to miss these Parisian winters anymore, that's for certain. But please say something.

Gardener: I wasn't able to get your attention most of your life, Oscar. Now all of a sudden you want me to talk to you?

Wilde: Why do I think you are ...?

Gardener: Aren't you the very one who said that if I am perfect, I cannot relate to you? What do you want from me now?

Wilde: I should've known! I should've known! You've been mistaken for a gardener before, haven't you? Are you the Christ I'm talking to? You know, I've not done well with gardens and gardeners before.

Gardener: I know you haven't.

Wilde: You know it well, then. Life seems to start off that way: a garden before you ...

Gardener: It did once upon a time.

Wilde: As I look back, my only mistake was that I confined myself so exclusively to the trees of what seemed to me the sunlit side of the garden and shunned the other side for its shadow and its gloom.

Gardener: Your pain is intense now. What do you want from me? To help you escape once more?

Wilde: Look what I'm reduced to: failure, disgrace, poverty, sorrow, despair, suffering, tears even, broken words that come from lips of pain, remorse that makes one walk on thorns, a conscience that condemns, self-abasement that punishes, misery that puts ashes on one's head, and anguish that chooses sackcloth for its raiment and into its own drink puts gall. I often said that I wished I could look into the seeds of time to see what was coming.

Gardener: You've always had a way with words, dear Oscar! You've come to the right place to see what comes to everyone.

You did ask who I am, didn't you?

Wilde: I did. I'm somewhat fearful of the answer. Can I bring Robbie into this discussion? I'm unsure of myself when facing you alone. Can-

Gardener: Not right now. Believe me; he'll have his turn. His mind, he thinks, is very clear and yours is confused. But not long after you have gone, he's going to come looking for me, too. But this is a time for you and me to-

Wilde: My heart is pounding like a hammer within me. This can't be true. I can't get it to stop its blows.

I was fearful of meeting up with you, after all. All my life you've haunted me. I've sought to flee from you. You are ... you are ... Tell me. You are-

Gardener: Do you really want to know?

Excerpted from Sense and Sensuality by RAVI ZACHARIAS Copyright © 2002 by Ravi Zacharias
Excerpted by permission. All rights reserved. No part of this excerpt may be reproduced or reprinted without permission in writing from the publisher.

Meet the Author

Ravi Zacharias was born in India, immigrating to Canada at age twenty. After earning a Masters of Divinity at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, he began a speaking ministry that has taken him worldwide (including the campuses of Harvard, Princeton, and Oxford University) as a recognized authority on comparative religions, cults, and philosophy. Zacharias' holds three doctorate degrees, and his books include the Gold Medallion winner Can Man Live without God, Deliver Us from Evil, Cries of the Heart, Jesus Among Other Gods, and two children's titles. He teaches a weekly, international radio program entitled Let My People Think. Ravi lives with his wife, Margaret, in Atlanta. They have three grown children.

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