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The Smart Cookies' Guide to Couples and Money: Earn More, Argue Less, Achieve the Life You Want . . . Togetherby Andrea Baxter, Angela Self, Katie Dunsworth, Robyn Gunn, Sandra Hanna
This hip and accessible guide addresses all of the nagging money questions and thorny situations that come up when you're in a relationship, whether you're just starting to get serious or you're already married.
This book gives couples the perfect excuse to break the silence and start talking about… money! Staying on top of your finances when you're/b>
This hip and accessible guide addresses all of the nagging money questions and thorny situations that come up when you're in a relationship, whether you're just starting to get serious or you're already married.
This book gives couples the perfect excuse to break the silence and start talking about… money! Staying on top of your finances when you're single can be tough enough - add another person to the mix and it can seem downright daunting. Even if you've got your own finances in order, there are inevitable money issues that come up when you're part of a couple, not just because one of you may be in better shape financially than the other, but because you may each have very different perspectives on money and how to manage it.
The principles the Cookies set out in their first book about the basics of life planning and investing can work for couples, too, and this guide offers simple techniques that will help readers with everything from dealing with "money baggage" to getting out of debt to planning for retirement. Again they draw practical advice and meaty anecdotes from their own financial escapades, as well as readers' queries and the personal experiences of five focus couples.
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The Other “M” Word
Why Money Is So Hard to Talk About
Admit it. It’s been on your mind since you realized you might be falling in love, even if you wouldn’t dare say it out loud: Is he (or she) in good financial shape? Will we be able to build a future together? Forget about marriage, money is the real “M” word.
No matter how often we tell ourselves that money doesn’t matter when we’re in love, we know it does. Love can bring us joy and companionship. But as the Motown song made famous by the Beatles goes, “Your loving gives me such a thrill, but your loving don’t pay my bill[s]!” To actually build a life together as a couple, you need more than love. You need a financial plan.
But here’s the good news: Being in a long-term relationship can be as good for your wallet as it is for your heart. With a plan in place, you have the potential to achieve your financial goals a lot sooner as a couple than you could on your own.
Pool your savings, for example, and you can buy a home much sooner than with only one income — not to mention a bigger one. Together, you may also be able to qualify for lower mortgage rates or interest rates on a car or bank loan, saving you thousands of dollars in interest. And by combining your savings into one account, you are more likely to meet the high minimum balance required to qualify for some of the best-yielding money market accounts.
You can cut costs in other ways, too. How about a date night in? Cook something yummy for dinner or share some cheap takeout and snuggle on the couch with a movie — it can be just as enjoyable as an evening out, and a lot less expensive! All of this translates into more money for both of you. If you and your partner already live together, you know that you can also dramatically cut your expenses by splitting the rent or mortgage and the bills, and maybe even by selling one of your cars and sharing the other. Katie and her husband, Nick, have done both, and saved thousands of dollars in the process.
Being part of a couple can also mean you’ve got another source of financial support if you need some short-term help, and someone who won’t charge you interest on a loan. (At least, we hope not!) And over time, your incomes are likely to fluctuate and there will be periods when one of you has to lean on the other. Being able to do that can actually help you reach your goals even faster than you could on your own. Robyn helped her former husband out financially when he went back to school, and then he returned the favour when she started a graduate degree program and cut down her shifts at work. With his help, she was able to take additional classes and get her degree much sooner than she would have otherwise. That also meant that she was able to increase her income faster, now that she qualified for higher-paying jobs with the additional degree.
When Angela and a former boyfriend moved in together and decided to combine their finances, he had double the debt that she did from school. Nonetheless, they consolidated their balances and worked together to pay the debt off faster. Then, when she graduated and took a freelance position that offered her the chance to hone her skills but without a steady paycheque, he helped support her financially between projects so she could get the experience she needed to land a more stable, better-paying job.
There are less tangible advantages to being in a committed relationship, too: It often forces you to take a hard look at your own financial habits. When you know that your actions affect your partner, too, you’re more likely to pay attention to what you’re doing with your money. And you’ve got extra motivation to set aside money for future goals if you know your partner is doing the same.
When Sandra and her boyfriend, Jason, began dating, they often surprised each other with gifts and extravagant dates: tickets to a hockey playoff game or a concert, or a day of spa treatments. For a while, Sandra didn’t worry about how much they were spending on each other, since she enjoyed spoiling her boyfriend and he was happy to return the favour. Plus, they were both making good money, and neither was depending on a credit card. But as they became more serious, Sandra began to worry that they wouldn’t be able to keep up those kinds of splurges without dipping into their savings. By this point, they’d talked about their future together and she knew that if they spent too much now, they would pay for it later. So when they started talking about taking a trip to Hawaii, she saw it as an opportunity for both of them to rein in their spending a little. Sandra calculated how much it would cost and then they discussed how much they’d each have to set aside if they wanted to take the trip within the next six months. Once they had a tangible goal and put it in perspective, they knew that in order to save enough money they’d have to start eating in more often, plan less expensive outings together, and skip some of their habitual Starbucks runs. But each of them thought it was worth the trade-off. All it took was a little incentive, and in the end it helped both of them get into the habit of saving money each month for their future goals.
These kinds of behavioural changes that happen when you’re in a serious relationship may help to explain why those who are married tend to increase their personal wealth at a much faster rate than those who are single. One 15-year study by Ohio State University (published in the Journal of Sociology in 2005) found that those who stay married are able to accumulate nearly double the wealth of those who remain single. The study’s author, research scientist Jay Zagorsky, attributed the difference to the benefits couples get by splitting expenses and combining their savings, as well as the new attitude many of them develop about money. He noted that the realization among married participants that their actions now had consequences for at least one other person — and maybe children, too — prompted many to adopt better financial habits and put more money away rather than spend it.
The U.S. census, which also tracks wealth, seems to support these findings. They found that the average net worth of all households headed by married couples is nearly $102,000, while single men have an average net worth of $23,700 and single women have an average net worth of just $20,217. In this case, if you split the total net worth in half for married couples, each spouse has a net worth that’s more than double that of their single counterparts. That’s a big difference.
The Canadian census tracks earnings, not net worth. But it found that childless couples have an average combined income of $59,834, while couples with kids earn nearly $83,000 combined. Meanwhile, the average income for singles living on their own is just $24,808. Even if you divide the income in half for couples with at least one kid at home, that means each partner is still making nearly 68 percent more on average than their single counterparts. True, age may be a factor here: More singles are in their 20s or 30s, so their earnings won’t be as high as those who are more established in their careers — but that’s not enough to account for the whole difference. It’s likely that being in a committed relationship, especially if you have a family to support, can also provide a powerful impetus to work harder, or to seek a better-paying job or additional sources of income.
Of course, if you want to enjoy all the financial advantages of being part of a couple, you need to keep an open line of communication about money and always work together to plan your financial future. Once you know exactly how much you need to earn or save to reach your goals, you’ll be more motivated to earn enough to stay on track — especially if you know your partner is doing his or her part. (We’ll give you some ideas on easy ways to earn extra income in Chapter Six.) Which is one of the reasons why we don’t just want to help you identify your goals, but encourage you to put a price tag on them as soon as possible so you know exactly what you need to achieve them.
Working through your finances as a couple and planning your future together won’t just improve your finances: It can actually improve your relationship, too. Working together to achieve the things that you both want can be a fun process, once you’re both on the same page. Katie and her husband say they’ve actually come to look forward to their monthly “money dates,” a time they set aside to talk about investment ideas, monitor the progress they’ve made towards their financial goals, celebrate their successes, and help each other tackle any challenges that have come up. Talking about money has become so habitual that the once-taboo topic often drifts into their daily discussions too, whether they’re sharing news on a deal they got that day or discussing the pros and cons of an investing tip or strategy they read about in the financial news.
Still, that doesn’t mean that bringing up the topic the first time is easy. Even Katie admits that getting to that level of comfort took a lot of practice and there were some uncomfortable, even emotional, conversations over money in the beginning of their relationship. Maybe that’s why so many of us try to avoid the topic for so long. Sure, we’ll talk with each other about the things we want in life. But we often put off discussing the one thing we need in order to have them: money. We manage to talk about how we’ll split the bills for the wedding or the utilities and rent, but dance around the bigger questions of how we’ll merge our money or save enough for the life we each envision. Too often, we just assume that piece will fall right into place on its own: As challenges come up, we figure, we’ll deal with them then. If we get along well, we should have no problem sorting out the financial stuff down the road, right?
Maybe not. Beneath the surface, you could each have wildly different expectations about how much money you need to live the life you want — and you’re not likely to know unless you talk about it. Yes, you can still find a compromise that works for both of you. But to do so, you need to know how each of you envisions your life together, how you’ll pay for it, and who’s responsible for what. Ideally, you should have that discussion well before you walk down the aisle or co-sign a lease on an apartment together. But if you haven’t, you’re certainly not alone.
A poll conducted for the Bank of Montreal in 2008 ranked money as the most sensitive topic of conversation among Canadians — ahead of religion, politics, and even weight. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that in the U.K., the Financial Services Authority found nearly three-quarters of couples have a tough time talking about money: One-third of the nearly 1,500 people it surveyed said they’d rather discuss sex or a previous relationship with their boyfriend or partner.
The bottom line is if you don’t talk about your financial concerns and expectations with your partner there is a good chance that any assumptions you have made could turn out to be wrong. You might believe that the man you’re with is financially successful because he has a hip wardrobe and almost always picks up the tab when you go out, for example, or simply because he works in a high-paying industry (even though you may have no idea what he’s actually earning). You might think that since he rarely uses a credit card around you, he’s got little or no debt. And when he talks about wanting to start a family, you’re sure that means he’s got money saved up. Unless there are obvious signs indicating otherwise — maybe you overhear a call from a collection agency or you’re there when the landlord shows up to demand overdue rent — it’s easy to assume that your boyfriend, or partner, will be able to contribute at least as much as you are financially to the relationship, if not more, right?
So you put off the money conversation until you’re absolutely forced to have it. Maybe one of you loses a job and the other is stuck covering the bills because you don’t have savings. Maybe you decide to buy a home together, only to discover that your partner’s credit score is so low that you can’t get a mortgage. Or you get pregnant and all of a sudden have to figure out how you’re going to cover all the additional day-to-day expenses of having a baby — not to mention, child care or the bigger place you might need to accommodate a child. Of course, this is not the best time to realize that you and your partner are not on the same page financially. By then it could be too late, and you may find that both your finances and your relationship are in serious trouble.
We know this from experience. Each of the five of us can recall a relationship in which we put off talking about our finances and made assumptions that turned out to be wrong — and regretted doing so. From varying expectations about who was responsible for what, to different approaches regarding making and managing money to coping with opposing financial priorities, we know how bad it can get. Had we discussed these issues with our partners sooner, we might have been able to reach a compromise we were both happy with. But the longer we waited, the harder it was to bridge the disparity in our habits and attitudes.
It may seem hard to believe that couples who are close in every other regard can be so vastly different when it comes to money, but researchers say it’s more common than you might think — even among married couples. One study published in the Journal of Socio-Economics found that spouses disagreed on everything from how much income and wealth they had to how much debt they carried. “Most husbands and wives do not share similar views of the family’s finances,” the research scientist concluded. Even worse, they often didn’t realize it, which means they might assume their finances are in better shape than they actually are and behave accordingly. That’s not good for their relationship or their finances.
When it comes to what’s important to each person financially, couples don’t score much better. In a 2006 Money magazine survey of 1,000 spouses, about a quarter of the men surveyed said they thought their wives believed that having the right investments was very important. The actual number was nearly twice that. Likewise, only 45 percent of men said that having cash stashed for emergencies was very important to their wives but, in fact, more than two-thirds of the wives said it was crucial. Meanwhile, women believed their husbands cared more about paying off debt and saving for big purchases than men actually said they did. Husbands and wives, the survey concluded, “just aren’t getting through to each other about financial goals, priorities and worries.” No kidding.
Having more money doesn’t necessarily result in more conversations about it either. While 70 percent of wealthy wives said they shared the financial decision-making responsibilities with their spouses in a 2005 survey by PNC Advisors, fewer than half of their husbands said that was the case. (Most men said they were in charge, which was news to many of their wives.) The researchers found “an alarming lack of communication about wealth planning and goals, and significant differences between the sexes on financial topics — from control over finances to attitudes toward wealth — that can lead to greater problems down the road if not addressed.”
And that’s married couples! Those who are in a relationship, even if it’s a serious one, are even less likely to broach the topic.
As we mentioned earlier, having different views on money — or inaccurate assumptions about your partner’s views — doesn’t mean you can’t succeed as a couple. It just means that it’s even more important that you talk about them. Katie and Nick, for example, realized early on that they didn’t always agree on how they spent their money, or even how they managed and invested it. But they were able to overcome their differences by getting them out in the open and coming up with a plan that worked for both of them. (We’ll explain how they did that in more detail in the coming chapters.)
All five of us have learned that it’s usually not the differences themselves that threaten the relationship, but the unwillingness to discuss them. By not talking about money early on, we really make things worse. Couples don’t break up because they argued about money. They usually break up because they wait until they’re in a bind to bring up the topic, and then it’s often too late. By that point, if they realize that they have very different values or views when it comes to money, they may not be willing or able to reconcile them. That was the case with two of us in past relationships that ended.
Talking about money and finances can also reveal a lot about your overall goals and values. And if you discover when you have that conversation — as some of us did — that you and your partner have opposing goals or principles, then money isn’t the only issue. If you don’t share the same core values in a relationship and you’re not working towards the same things, it’s very hard, if not impossible, to build a successful future together no matter how much money you have. That’s another reason why it’s so important to talk about money before you move in with, or marry, someone. You want to make sure that you’re compatible not just physically and emotionally, but financially. (Check out our money type guide in Chapter Four to see how you match up as a couple.)
So why is it so difficult to have that first conversation? See if any of these sound familiar to you:
We’ve been told most of our lives that it’s impolite to talk about money.
Few of us are accustomed to talking about our finances at all — even with our closest friends or family. So why should it be any different with the people we date? Before we formed our money club in 2006, none of us were really comfortable talking about money with anyone. The prospect of spilling the intimate details of our finances with four other women, even in a completely confidential setting, was more than a little nerve-racking. Now of course, we’re glad we did. Both our finances and our friendships have improved because of it. Still, we know that bringing the subject up with the person you’re involved with can be tricky, especially in the beginning of your relationship.
You may be wondering how much he earns, how much debt he has, and whether he can support himself and maybe a family, too. But you’re not likely to ask him right away. Asking him about his financial status can seem as intrusive as asking for details of his past relationships, or looking through his email. And, even if your own finances are in pretty good shape, you may be reluctant to talk about your own income, how much you spend on clothes or nights out with your friends, or how much debt you might be carrying. You may worry that, if you’re doing well, sharing the details of your financial status could be misinterpreted as bragging. And if you’re not in great financial shape, you may fear that he’ll judge you harshly for mismanaging your money, or be turned off by the thought of having to shoulder your financial burden.
Robyn, who’s now in a long-term committed relationship, remembers being reluctant to ask too many questions about past boyfriends’ finances because she never wanted them to think that she was after their money or with them for financial reasons — even though she was perfectly able to take care of herself and they could likely see that. She felt particularly uncomfortable prying for details, especially if the man she was with seemed reluctant, or defensive, about providing them. So she’d often just drop the subject. (Note to readers: There’s usually a reason why he’s acting that way, and it may come back to haunt you later if you don’t persist.)
In North America, we’ve been brought up to believe that money is an extremely private matter. Few of us know how much our closest friends earn or how much debt they have. So it may seem rude to pose those questions to our partner. But here’s the difference. You can argue that knowing how much your friend earns, or how much she owes, isn’t any of your business because it has no real effect on you — unless she’s been crashing at your place rent free, or you’ve loaned her some money. But your partner’s financial status is your business if you plan on sharing your lives and having a future together because it has a direct effect on you. If you move in together and he can’t pay his half of the rent, you’re stuck with it. If he has a terrible credit score, it will affect both of you when you try to get a mortgage or a car loan. If he has a lot of debt he hasn’t told you about, that may mean you both have to postpone plans to get married, buy a home, start a family, or even take a vacation. If he earns less than you, you may be responsible for covering more of the bills. And vice versa. You’re no longer in it alone. You’re in it together. So, once you are in a committed relationship, you both have every right to know each other’s financial details. That doesn’t mean divulging them won’t be difficult, though, especially if either of you are in financial trouble since . . .
It’s embarrassing to admit that our own finances aren’t in great shape.
Even though the five of us were committed to improving our finances and to supporting one another, it was still tough for Sandra to admit (at our first Smart Cookies meeting in 2006) that she’d blown right through the $8,000 she’d so diligently saved while living at home — and now had credit card debt, too. Angela and Robyn were equally sheepish as they explained to the group how they’d pretty much given up control of their finances to their exes in relationships that had recently ended, so they had little confidence or experience managing their own finances, which were in total disarray at the time. Even Katie, who made the highest salary among us, winced as she revealed that she had become such a shopaholic that she actually hid new purchases from her then fiancé. And Andrea remembers being petrified to admit to the rest of us that she owed $18,000 on her credit cards. She was worried that the people she liked and respected — including her boyfriend — would think she was a failure, or a fraud, if they found out how much debt she’d accumulated trying to maintain a lifestyle and wardrobe she couldn’t afford.
Before she joined the Smart Cookies, Andrea remembers being reluctant to reveal any details about her debt to her then boyfriend, even though they were living together. She knew he assumed that she was good with her money because she conveyed an image of success: a high-powered career in marketing, designer clothes, and a chic Sex and the City lifestyle. He had no idea how much of it was really being financed through her credit cards. “When we finally started talking about money, he found out that I was bad at managing it — actually, that I wasn’t really managing it at all!” she remembers. “He was shocked.” She’d considered her debt and the way she spent her money to be such a personal matter that she was unwilling to talk about it, even after they moved in together and started splitting expenses. At first, it was easy to pretend that she had everything under control — especially since he had no idea that it actually wasn’t. By the time she admitted her financial shortcomings, overspending was no longer the only issue. It became a matter of trust and honesty. He wondered why she hadn’t been upfront with him earlier, and worried about whether there were other issues she was holding back. Andrea felt guilty about not opening up to him sooner and putting them in a worse financial situation because of it. The awkward feelings that followed weren’t the only reasons why they eventually broke up, but they were certainly a contributing factor.
Of course, Andrea was so worried about admitting to her own financial faults that she didn’t stop to think that even if her boyfriend was good with money then, that may not have always been the case. Chances are, you’re not the only one who’s made mistakes with your money. In fact, sharing your money woes might actually make your partner more comfortable opening up about his or her missteps with money, too, and bring you closer. We found that to be the case when we formed our money group. It was a little nerve-racking for each of us to confess the details of our financial situations at that first meeting of the Smart Cookies: how much we made, how much we owed, and how much we needed to learn about managing our money. But it was also a great relief. Admitting our own money mistakes, and learning about the financial faux pas that our friends had made along the way, actually made us feel less anxious about our situations and created an immediate bond between us.
Even if your significant other is one of those rare types who has always been responsible with money, a relationship means that you’re in it together now. It’s in both of your best interests to work as a team towards turning your finances around. And don’t beat yourself up if he’s better with money than you are! Remember that being able to manage your money successfully is just one skill that you can bring to a relationship. There are surely other areas in which you have more experience or expertise and he can learn from you. When you’re dealing with money matters, as with any challenge in a relationship, you both need to be honest and supportive with each other — willing to listen, without judging, and to help. Even if he’s got a great record when it comes to managing money, he might still learn from some of your mistakes. Though, of course, that means you must first be willing to admit them.
Talking about it will force us to confront our financial reality.
Being embarrassed about admitting that your finances are in shambles is one thing. But another big reason none of us had wanted to address our money problems until the first Smart Cookies meeting was because it would force us to acknowledge that we weren’t happy with the way things were working out financially, and that it was time to take responsibility for the mistakes we’d made, or were still making. And we knew that would probably require some big changes in the way we spent and managed our money.
Those same concerns often keep us from talking about our finances with the people who are closest to us. In fact, it can be even harder to talk about it with our partners. As we said earlier: Friends have each other’s best interests at heart but, usually, no real personal stake in each other’s finances. But that’s not the case when you’re seriously involved with someone. The financial decisions you make will have lasting consequences for both of you. And that can be a scary thing to think about — especially when you don’t feel like you’ve been making the best decisions yourself.
One thing I knew for sure was that starting the conversation about money wasn’t going to be comfortable. I didn’t think there’d be a blow-out screaming match, but I knew it would mean change. And even after my husband and I first got engaged, I still looked at my spending habits as my own business, as long as I was using my own money. It didn’t hit me that my decisions were now affecting both of us. After we announced our engagement, I realized I was regularly spending $200 to $300 at a time on things like clothes, hair products, and jewellery, all in the name of “the wedding and honeymoon.” As my pile of purchases slowly took over our dining room, my fiancé, Nick, suggested we make a budget. At first, I bristled at the thought: Why should I be held accountable for how I spent my own hard-earned money? The nerve! I should be able to do whatever I want with it, right? For months, I angrily dodged any money-related conversations. None of your business, buddy, I would think to myself.
The situation finally hit home when Nick presented me with a well-researched plan to rent out the second bedroom of our tiny apartment to an international student. I flew off the handle. Why on earth would we do that? With sadness in his eyes, he calmly explained how he felt that in order to move towards achieving our common goals — starting a family, buying a home, and having the freedom to travel where and when we wanted — we needed more money. I argued that we both made good salaries and we didn’t pay that much in fixed expenses, and for a minute he didn’t say anything. And that’s when it hit me: As Nick was relentlessly planning and saving for our future, I was frittering away my income on myself. I was buying things that might give me a temporary lift but were keeping me from saving for the things I really wanted to get out of our life together. That was a huge breakthrough moment for me. I came clean, and I agreed to — finally — have that dreaded money conversation and put together a budget. And I vowed from then on to work on our finances together. So we decided to set aside one day each month to review our financial goals and to look at investment opportunities. Now that we both feel comfortable talking about it, discussing spending and saving is a part of our daily conversations, so we’re always clear on where our money is going. I’m so glad we did. Cutting back on my spending wasn’t easy at first, but it’s one of the reasons why we were able to pay for our dream wedding — in cash — and to afford a great condo downtown. And, I realized, I never really missed not having another pair of jeans or more jewellery — especially when it meant being able to have the things I truly wanted and to know I was helping us move closer to the goals we’d created together.
Of course, you may not be the only one with financial problems to fix before you can build a future together. You might find out that he’s a lot worse with his money than you are.
You fear his finances may be in worse shape than you thought (or hoped).
A friend of ours was in a relationship with a man who spoiled her endlessly. At first we were all a bit envious. He took her to Paris, bought her expensive clothes, and wined and dined her at all the top-rated (and priciest) restaurants in the city. She assumed that he could afford such a decadent lifestyle and must be doing really well financially. It wasn’t until after they got married that she discovered the ugly truth: That he had been charging almost everything on his credit cards. And he’d racked up an enormous debt. She might not have enjoyed her cashmere sweater, or that five-course dinner, as much had she known that she’d eventually be paying for it herself — plus interest! — once they were married. Sure, everyone loves to be pampered, but if you plan on staying together, you better make sure you know where that money is coming from — and whether it’s worth borrowing against your future to impress you now.
Sandra put off bringing up money with her boyfriend, Jason, for months, even though she was worried that they were spending too much on each other. Things were going so well that she didn’t want to cut their “honeymoon stage” short by bringing up heavy subjects like paying off debt and planning for a future together. Plus, she knew it would be challenging to figure out how to align their financial habits and make sure they were both putting money away for their future, not spending against it — especially when he’d become accustomed to using his money as he wished without having to be accountable to anyone. When it finally came up, they were able to talk about what they wanted and expected the other to contribute to their relationship financially. And planning the trip together to Hawaii helped, too, since it gave them a shared goal to which they could both contribute. It also gave her boyfriend a tangible reason to rein in his spending habits. She also encouraged him to spend less on her. Instead of eating out on their dates, one of them would cook a romantic dinner for the other. Instead of taking her to Starbucks for coffee drinks, they went downstairs to the complimentary coffee bar in his apartment building. Instead of spending a lot on afternoon activities, they’d hang out for free at the pool at his building. They had just as much fun together, but spent a lot less.
The reality is committing yourselves to working together on a financial plan and to contributing equally (or, as close as you can, depending on the incomes you earn) is akin to committing yourselves to each other. It’s a big step in a relationship, and a crucial one. If either of you continues to spend — or to use a credit card — as if you’re still single, you’re just pushing your future together further away and risking the chance that one of you will end up resenting or distrusting the other for it.
The Importance of Being Honest
It’s not surprising that many of us — especially if we’re financially successful — worry about the consequences of falling in love with someone who isn’t. What if you learn that he owes $20,000 on his credit cards? Or that he makes half of what you do? What if you discover that the reason he has that nice apartment is because his parents have been paying the rent? Or if he admits that they’ve never saved a penny or opened a retirement account?
You may be in love — or so you think — but how can you possibly start planning a future together? Having a frank discussion about your finances, and about your concerns, is the first step towards doing that. If you’re both willing to work on your bad habits, and committed to contributing your fair share to reach your financial goals, then you can make them happen (albeit, maybe a little slower than you’d hoped). But if they’re not willing to change, or even to talk about their financial faults, the reality is that you may not have a future together — well, unless you’re willing to foot the bill for it. And that’s a lot to ask of someone.
Give him some time, though, especially after you first bring up the subject. You’re a team now. That means he shouldn’t have to do this all on his own. You can help by being supportive emotionally and maybe even helping to pay down your partner’s debt (think of your future!), or picking up some of the bills while they do.
Katie admits it took her a little while to fess up to her then fiancé that she was overspending on things for herself — at the expense of goals they had together — and to improve her habits so that she was contributing to their future, too. She found that it’s just as tough, if not tougher, for a man to concede his mistakes — especially if he was overspending on you! Men often feel additional pressure because of their traditional role as providers. (Many of their fathers may have been the sole breadwinners, after all, supporting an entire family.) So it’s really difficult for some to admit that they’re not even doing a good job of providing for themselves, especially if they’ve led you to believe otherwise.
If you want to stay together, though, it’s essential that you talk about it. Both of you need to feel as if you’re each contributing to the relationship, no matter how much you’re earning or owe. And he needs to behave financially as if he’s part of a couple now, not a bachelor trying to woo a woman with expensive gifts and dinners. As we said earlier, once you’re in a committed relationship, the financial decisions you make can affect both of you — even if you’re using your own money.
The good news? We know from personal experience and from talking with dozens of couples that if you can agree on your goals, and you are each willing to take steps to improve your finances and to play your part in reaching those goals, then you can have a wonderful future together even if you’re a financial mess right now. (We’ll help you each get your finances in order in the coming chapters, too.)
You’re worried you’ll discover you have very different financial priorities or goals.
If you’ve based your vision of the future together on assumptions you’ve made and not actual conversations, you may not want to know otherwise — even if you suspect it. After all, what if you discover that you either have different goals or very different ideas about how you’re going to reach them? That may leave you questioning your future together altogether. So, instead of talking about it, you simply clam up, avoid the conversation, and hope for the best (e.g., that he’ll change his mind, or come to his senses, without you nudging him).
We probably don’t need to tell you that this isn’t the best approach. If you don’t discuss your goals and views on money, you may end up learning about them the hard way or allowing the gap between your goals to grow wider and wider. That makes it harder to find a compromise down the road, as Angela found out.
My former boyfriend and I picked up David Bach’s book, Smart Couples Finish Rich, when we moved into our first place together. We were actually excited to read it and get started on working together to improve our finances. At least we thought we were. The first exercise we did required us to each list our most important values and then create common goals based on those values. He picked power, freedom, and independence. My choices were completely different: happiness, family and friends, and making a difference. I wasn’t too worried about it initially. But then we mapped out our financial goals based on these values. As we read them off, we discovered that we had completely contrasting ideas of our future together. We took one look at each other’s goals, tucked our papers into the book, and left the topic alone. It was clear that we had very different intentions about what to do with our money and at that time, neither of us was willing to change our goals or the spending and saving habits that we’d adapted. We thought that if we just stopped talking about it, we could avoid any problems. But we quickly learned that the real problem wasn’t our different views on how to manage our money; it was the fact that we weren’t willing or able to talk about it as a couple, to resolve our differences and come to some sort of compromise we both could live with. We ended up breaking off the relationship a few months later, in part because we’d convinced ourselves that we had incompatible ideas about our futures, even though we’d never given ourselves a chance to resolve them.
So, what happens if you and your partner find out that you don’t have the same goals? In some cases, you may determine that they’re not so far apart. If one of you wants to start a family a little sooner than the other, for example, you may be able to adjust your expectations a little to find a compromise. What if one of you wants to live in the city, while the other one wants to move to the suburbs? Why not try to find somewhere in between that captures some of the qualities that you like about each (a suburb with a main street, for example, where you can live above storefronts or near a train station)? Maybe having a big cushion of savings is really important to one of you, but the other one likes to be able spend a little more regularly on travel, home repairs, or new furniture. Why not come up with a figure that you’re both okay with leaving in the account — we recommend an amount that would cover about three to six months’ worth of bills and expenses — then agree to use any additional savings towards vacations or other purchases? Or, set up another savings account and start a separate vacation or furniture fund. By talking about your differences, you can often find a way to bridge them and come up with a plan that works for both of you, even if it’s not exactly the same as the one you had in mind initially.
Having slightly differing visions for your future together, or different priorities when it comes to how you spend your money, really isn’t unusual. The trick is coming up with a plan that takes each of your visions and priorities into account. That could mean putting some of your personal goals on hold, temporarily, or reassessing what’s really important to you. But, as we’ve found, the result can be even better than the life you’d imagined (in part, because you’re sharing it with the person you love). We’ll show you how to do that in Chapter Three.
Of course, there’s always the chance that your goals are completely incompatible. Maybe you want to take at least one big vacation each year, while he hates to travel and prefers to stay home and spend any extra money renovating the house that you think is perfectly adequate as it is. Maybe buying a home is really important to you, but he prefers to rent and spend any extra savings on weekend trips and dinners out with you and his friends. Often, money isn’t really the issue in these cases, it’s lifestyle. But how you want to spend it reveals a lot about your underlying values and goals. If yours are very different from his, then you have to come up with a reasonable compromise, or acknowledge that your relationship just might not be the right fit.
Getting the Conversation Started
Don’t worry. You don’t need to do it on the first date, or even the tenth. What you each do with your money won’t become a big issue until it’s clear that you are committed to a future together. But as soon as you’re in a serious relationship and are talking about sharing your future, it’s time to talk about money, too.
So, how do you bring it up?
Well, you can always use this book as an excuse. But there are other ways to broach the topic, too. Maybe you’ve got something you’re saving for together, whether it’s your wedding or just a romantic vacation. As you make your plans, you can use it as an opportunity to talk about some of your other goals and even create a spending plan together, like Sandra and her boyfriend did when they planned their trip to Hawaii (see Chapter Six). If you have some money saved up, you could suggest that you move that into a joint high-interest savings account and that you both put a set amount into the account each month so that you’ll have the money for something you both want — or just to keep as an emergency fund for unexpected expenses.
Or, if you’re talking about moving in together, expand the conversation about how to split bills and expenses to include talking about setting money aside for your future goals too. That is a great way to start figuring out how you can work together to manage your money and achieve your goals.
Or try the reverse. Ask him if you can spend some time tonight or this weekend talking about your plans for the future. Trying to figure out how you can reach those goals together is a natural way to ease into a more detailed discussion on money. And it will help keep you focused on building a future together, rather than dwelling on any differences you may have in your finances now. You can use the Perfect Day exercise in Chapter Three to help you come up with a list of shared goals.
In fact, over the next few chapters, we’ll give you specific details on everything you need to cover money-wise before you get married (or asap, if you’re already married) — from merging and managing your money to goal-setting and goal-getting. In the first conversation, though, you don’t need to cover all of that. You might feel more comfortable just talking generally about your hopes and dreams, and any financial concerns you have. Then you can get into the nitty-gritty details of your finances in the follow-up discussions.
As you prepare for that first conversation, keep these tips in mind:
• Choose a comfortable setting. If you live together, think of the place where you both feel most relaxed outside of the bedroom. (We don’t want you falling asleep!) Maybe you enjoy cozying up on the living room couch or sitting together at the kitchen table. If you’re the one who is initiating the discussion and you don’t live together, suggest having it at his apartment — assuming he doesn’t have any roommates or that they’ll be out — so that he feels at ease in his surroundings.
• Cut out the distractions. Make sure the TV is off. Put away your cellphones and turn off the ringer on the home phone. Make sure your partner won’t be focused on other things. If he’s a huge hockey fan, for example, the week of the Stanley Cup finals may not be the best time to have this conversation. You don’t want to have this discussion over dinner, when you might be focused on food, but rather after the dishes and table have been cleared and cleaned. You may want to share some wine, though, as you talk. (As long as it’s not too much wine — you do want to remember this conversation after all.)
• Agree together on a time. You don’t want to bring this up in the morning before work or right before you head out for an evening, but ensure that you’ve allotted plenty of time so you don’t feel rushed. Nor is it wise to initiate the conversation after he comes home with a big-screen TV and you’re livid — just as it wouldn’t be a great time for him to launch into the conversation about how careless you are with your money when you’ve returned from a shoe sale with bags in hand. You want to make sure that neither of you is angry or upset when you start the discussion so that, hopefully, you won’t be at the end either.
• Remember that you’re on the same side. Don’t point fingers. Don’t get defensive. And try not to rush to judgment. Remember, you want to tackle any financial problems you have as a team. It’s important that you offer each other support and encouragement as you share the details of your finances and then look for ways you can help each other, rather than making the other person feel bad about spending too much, saving too little, or not earning enough. Focus on the future, and what you can each do now, rather than on what’s happened in the past.
• Give a little to get a little. If you volunteer your own fears or feelings about a financial issue, your partner may feel more comfortable doing the same. Be candid about past mistakes — or even current ones — and about any concerns you have, and encourage your partner to do the same. It’s not just about coming up with an arrangement that works for both of you, but understanding why it works for both of you. By being honest about your feelings now, you can prevent either a lot of anger or resentment later on. But you must also be willing to make the changes necessary to address any concerns your partner has and to improve your finances so that you’re each doing your part.
• Stay positive. Instead of talking about all of the things you think the other person is doing wrong and how misdirected you might be, talk about what you are both doing right and how you can get to your goals even faster by working together. Identify each other’s strengths, and use those to figure out how to divvy up your financial responsibilities. Talk generally about the goals that you share and how you can achieve them.
In the coming chapters, we’ll help you prioritize those goals and come up with a strategy based on your current situation that can help you reach them even sooner than you may have thought possible.
Smart Cookie Summary
You can ask yourself these questions and keep your responses in a notebook. Or use these to get the conversation started with your partner.
1. Have you ever talked about your finances with your friends and family? Why, or why not?
2. What kinds of money issues have you encountered in past relationships? How did you address them?
3. What do you think are your biggest strengths and weaknesses when it comes to managing your money?
4. Looking back, what would you have done differently with your own money?
5. What are some of the benefits you see of managing your finances as a couple?
These are steps that you can take yourself, or that you and your partner can do together.
1. Make a list of your own money strengths and weaknesses. Are you good at making money, for example, but have trouble reining in your spending?
2. Make a list of your partner’s strengths. Is he (or she) super-organized, for example, or detail oriented? Does he (or she) have a great credit score? These are strengths that can help you determine what roles you’re each best suited to play in managing your money. It also helps to remember each other’s strengths as you begin your discussion.
3. Make a list of your top five personal financial goals. What would you like to improve about your own finances?
4. Make a list of your top five financial goals as a couple. Do you want to be debt free in two years? Do you want to be able to buy a home in three?
5. Bring these lists with you when you sit down to discuss your finances with your partner, and use them to help get the conversation started.
Meet the Author
ANDREA BAXTER is the Debt Buster, ANGELA SELF is the Money Magnet, KATIE DUNSWORTH is the Number Cruncher, ROBYN GUNN is the cash counselor and SANDRA HANNA is the Savvy Spender. Just a few years ago, they were all drowning in consumer debt. Inspired by an episode of The Oprah Winfrey Show on personal finance, they formed a money group to developed strategies for turning their finances around. Just one year later, they had dramatically improved their financial situations — and had made major advances in their careers, relationships, and life goals. This is their second book. JENNIFER BARRETT also co-wrote The Smart Cookies' Guide to Making More Dough and Getting Out of Debt.
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