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What Did Jesus Really Say-How Christianity Went Astray
     

What Did Jesus Really Say-How Christianity Went Astray

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by Peter Cayce
 

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No dogma please. And hold the mustard. For something to be called Christianity, it should be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Jesus never said he needed to die for our sins so we could be "saved." Only Paul and John make this claim. Christianity has therefore become a form of Paulism and Johnism that emphasize the Savior aspect of Jesus.

Overview

No dogma please. And hold the mustard. For something to be called Christianity, it should be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Jesus never said he needed to die for our sins so we could be "saved." Only Paul and John make this claim. Christianity has therefore become a form of Paulism and Johnism that emphasize the Savior aspect of Jesus.

But Paul had never met or heard Jesus teach, and John tells a story that's so different from the other disciples that we must seriously question him as a source.

Did you also know there are two different biblical stories about how Judas dies?

And Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute until the Pope made her one in the sixth century.

Pope Urban II even made killing non-Christians acceptable in the eleventh century.

Other subjects include ancient Buddhist records about Jesus traveling to India and studying Buddhism. Jesus may even have studied and practiced Kabbalah.

Subsequently, What Did Jesus Really Say is an easy to read introduction that also reflects on God, Karma, Buddhism, Kabbalah, Reincarnation, Politics, and even Astrophysics.

Product Details

ISBN-13:
9780595326730
Publisher:
iUniverse, Incorporated
Publication date:
01/06/2005
Pages:
92
Product dimensions:
6.00(w) x 9.00(h) x 0.22(d)

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What Did Jesus Really Say-How Christianity Went Astray: [What to Say to a Born Again Christian Fundamentalist, But Never Had the Information] 4.9 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 21 reviews.
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I've had a few friends who became Born Again Christians. Unfortunately they've been trying to convert me as well. I've got nothing against Born Again Jesus people. Just leave me out of it. This book gave me just the right bit of information to keep my overzealous Christian friends at bay. After reading this book, I also now understand why my friends are so fanatical about converting me. Fortunately, they now tend to leave me alone since they don't have answers to my questions (questions that I got from Cayce's book). Thanks for the information Mr. Cayce. This book is actually quite good and is different from other books of this genre in that it is less about boring biblical analysis and more about 'What To Say To A Born Again Christian Fundamentalist, But Never Had The Information.'
Guest More than 1 year ago
I really loved reading this book. A wonderful introduction to this subject. I especially liked the chapters on Kabbalah (and even Buddhism) and how they relate to what Jesus may have taught. Yes, it is very possible that Jesus knew -- at the very least -- or even studied the principles of Kabbalah. He was a 'mystical Jew' after all who believed in and performed (according to the New Testament) various 'kabbalah-like' miracles. So why wouldn't he know the principles of Jewish Mysticism? Mr. Cayce has also simplified a very complex subject into something very clear, something very basic, and something very succinct -- just as Jesus originally tried to do 2,000 years ago before Christianity all but semi-destroyed his message.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I really loved reading this book. A wonderful introduction to this subject. I especially liked the chapters on Kabbalah (and even Buddhism) and how they relate to what Jesus taught. Yes, it is very possible that Jesus studied -- at the very least -- or knew the principles of Kabbalah. He was a 'mystical Jew' after all who believed in and performed (according to the New Testament) various 'kabbalah-like' miracles. So why wouldn't he know the principles of Jewish Mysticism? Mr. Cayce has also simplified a very complex subject into something very clear, something very basic, and something very succinct -- just as Jesus originally tried to do 2,000 years ago before Christianity all but semi-destroyed his message.
Guest More than 1 year ago
Cayce is an excellent writer, and he has the talent to get rather involved, complex points across simply and forcefully. I have been attending Christian churches for over 60 years. Although I have learned many positive things that I have used in my life, I have always been somewhat skeptical when the pulpit has spoken on sin, heaven, hell, and the total accuracy of the Bible. Casey addresses these subjects very effectively, and although his book is only 75 pages, it contains a wealth of information and a new, refreshing way to look at Jesus without all the spiritual baggage the church has loaded on him over the last 2,000 years. I read this book in one sitting, and now I am reading it again, gaining even more fascinating insights into spiritual realities. I will, no doubt, re-read this book 2-3 times a year for the rest of my life.
Guest More than 1 year ago
Two thumbs up! Nice writing style. Pleasant and easy to read. I especially like Cayce'e chapter on 'Dinner with the Christian Fundamentalists'. It put a smile on my face. This book is actually entertaining and enlightening at the same time. The 'Meaning of Life' is even answered. A nice introduction to this subject!
Guest More than 1 year ago
I must admit I didn't really want to read this book. I was talked into it by a relative, and I'm glad I was. It was actually a very positive book about Jesus. The author is very informed about this subject matter, and I really enjoyed it. I found the book very interesting and informative. I talked my husband into reading it as well ... and he too was extremely impressed. A great read!
Guest More than 1 year ago
I really recommend this book. This is a great introduction for anyone interested in this subject. I also really like the way Mr. Cayce simplifies a very complicated subject. There's something to be said about focusing on Jesus' words first, since the various Christian churches around the world can't even agree on the basic tenets of Christianity. In fact, Christianity has been arguing with itself and other denominations of Christianity for over 2,000 years. Perhaps it's time to simply get down to the basics and focus on Jesus' words first and foremost. After all, even the disciples of Jesus didn't always agree with each other. And Paul and John tell such a different story about Jesus that you really can't take them seriously. I also like how the 'Meaning of Life' is explained in the last chapter and Epilogue. Could Mr. Cayce be right? Very interesting!
Guest More than 1 year ago
An excellent introduction to this subject. As other reviews have already stated, Mr. Cayce certainly treats Jesus with respect. The basics flaws of Christianity are evaluated instead since Christianity often contrasts and conflicts with some of the things Jesus said (as quoted in the New Testament). I also like Mr. Cayce's explanation and answer to the question, 'What is the Meaning of Life?' I highly recommend this interesting book.
Guest More than 1 year ago
A wonderful introduction to this subject. Cayce makes a very good argument and a highly interesting presentation. If you are interested in this type of subject at all, this book is the one to read. Especially if you've had enough of Christian Fundamentalist right wingers.
Guest More than 1 year ago
[Madrid, Spain] I bought this book while travelling to London, England. I honestly found that I couldn't put the book down! Very interesting material. I also really enjoyed the very last two chapters where the author answers the question, 'What Is The The Meaning of Life.'
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a wonderful and interesting book. A great introduction. If you'd also like to know 'What's the Meaning of Life?' -- then you must read the last two chapters. I highly recommend this book!
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is an excellent introduction. A great book for anyone wanting a simple and concise synopsis and overview of how Christianity has gone off course from the teachings of Jesus. Jesus is also treated fairly and with respect, and I especially like the way Cayce has used biblical text to argue against Fundamentalist Christianity in the same way that Fundamentalist Christians use biblical text to 'prove' their point.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I initially read the e-book, but then ordered the paperback to pass along to my Born Again Christian friends who are always trying to pursuade me to become 'saved' and to join their Assemblies of God Church. My Christian Fundamentalist friends are now at a loss for words because they can't answer my questions. They now tell me that I 'just have to have faith.' My thanks to the author for providing me with interesting and legitimate questions for my Born Again friends. They no longer try to convert me as they used to, and I always feel like I have the last word with them now. The book has also given me a new respect and interest in Jesus the man. Bottomline, what Jesus taught and what Christianity has been teaching is not always the same.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I was very impressed with this book. Extremely interesting subject matter. The last chapter and the Epilogue also speculate on how life works. Karma. Reincarnation. The age old question of 'Why Are We Here?' is answered. Very interesting indeed.
Guest More than 1 year ago
Some Christians will undoubtedly dislike this book. Even though the author is respectful of Jesus and tries not to insult Christians, there will be some of the Christian persuasion who will feel slighted and insulted. In other words, some Christians will simply not like this book. It diplomatically points out the flaws of their belief structure and may even shake the foundation of their faith somewhat. Well, that is until they put their faithful Christian heads back into the proverbial Christian sand again. Hear no evil. See no evil. When in doubt, put your uncertainties aside and have blind faith! Alas, the mantra of Born Again Christianity. Nevertheless, this book has the potential of opening the eyes of the spiritually 'hard of seeing.' It answers questions without being too scholarly, boring, pompous, or derogatory. A terrific book and a must read if you're open to the fact that Christianity has changed from the original message of Jesus. But if you are a devout Christian of any kind, you will probably want to skip reading this book, even if you are most in need of reading it.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a very good introduction to this subject. While Jesus is treated with a good deal of respect, the author clearly shows how Christianity is in many ways different from what Jesus Christ actually taught. The author also touches on various seemingly 'unrelated' subjects, but then effectively integrates them into a well written presentation. The main focus of the book, however, is on the various flaws of Fundamentalist Christianity and how the Apostle Paul and the Disciple John have misconstrued the message of Jesus. Subsequently, the author's primary argument appears to be that Christianity should be based on the teachings of Jesus Christ and not on the teachings of the church. I must say that I agree wholeheartedly. Christianity should be about what Jesus Christ taught. Not what Paul, John, and other well-meaning Christians have taught over the last 20 centuries. It should be based on the teachings of Jesus, just as Buddhism (for example) should be based on the teachings of Buddha. I also found it interesting that there are some very completely different stories in the New Testament. For example, I always thought that Judas had committed suicide after betraying Jesus. Even Mel Gibson portrays Judas hanging himself in the 'Passion of Christ.' I was surprised to learn that there is another very different story in the New Testament where Judas does not commit suicide at all. Therefore when Fundamentalist Christians claim that the Bible is flawless, that it is God's Holy Word (without error), then how can one accept this when the New Testament is quite clearly flawed. In addition, I like the way that Science and even Astrophysics (!) is combined with Buddhism, Kabbalah, and Reincarnation and their relation to Christianity and how things may actually work in this universe of ours as well as in our daily lives. I highly recommend this book as an introduction to anyone interested in this subject. Born Again Christians, however, will not appreciate the author's views.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This really is a wonderfully interesting book. I read some of the other reviews, and they are absolutely correct. If you are a conservative Christian Republican, you probably will not like this book, but if you are an open minded and spiritual individual, you will enjoy this book a lot more. I highly recommend this book.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a very informative book for any reader interested in a clear-cut introduction into this subject. The author certainly clarifies many issues. Perhaps what I liked best is that the book is not a heavy scholarly piece that becomes tedious to read. You can either read the chapters you are interested in or you can read the entire book from start to end. At first, I only read the chapters I was interested in, but I enjoyed them so much that I started the book again from the beginning. I especially liked the last two chapters with esoteric explanations of how the universe might actually work. I also enjoyed the philospophical link between science and religion. In other words, I highly recommend this book to anyone seeking an easy to read introduction on this subject.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a wonderful book! I love the intermingling of religion, mysticism, politics, and even science to form a beautiful argument for Jesus while clearly railing against Fundamentalist Christianity. The author, Peter Cayce, has tied all these subjects together in a well-presented and concise argument. Liberals will love this book! Conservatives will probably hate it!
Guest More than 1 year ago
I really enjoyed reading this book! Now more than ever (the way politics is in the USA) this book is very important. Christianity can actually become a dangerous force when it gets involved in the political process. Just look at the Inquisition. In fact, the United States today is heading for an inquisition-like type of Christianity. We might not be burning people at the stake, but we are being politically pressured to keep brain-dead people alive and overturn abortion rights. The Christian right wing of the Republican Party is even votong for people who they feel will best perpetuate these conservative issues by changing the laws that would force all Americans to accept their beliefs. This book is also a must-read for those who are tired of Christian Fundamentalists who quote the New Testament on issues of morality. In short, what Jesus says is often different from what Christianity says we should do. Modern Christianity is more about the Apostle Paul than it is about Jesus.