Where Men Win Glory

Where Men Win Glory

3.7 462
by Jon Krakauer

View All Available Formats & Editions

The death of NFL-player-turned-Army Ranger Pat Tillman in Afghanistan in 2004 created a scandal of government cover-up. Krakauer renders an intimate portrait of Tillman and captures the sadness, madness and heroism of the post-9/11 world.a  See more details below


The death of NFL-player-turned-Army Ranger Pat Tillman in Afghanistan in 2004 created a scandal of government cover-up. Krakauer renders an intimate portrait of Tillman and captures the sadness, madness and heroism of the post-9/11 world.a

Product Details

Random House Inc
Publication date:
Product dimensions:
5.20(w) x 7.90(h) x 1.30(d)

Customer Reviews

Average Review:

Write a Review

and post it to your social network


Most Helpful Customer Reviews

See all customer reviews >

Where Men Win Glory 3.8 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 457 reviews.
ReconSoldier More than 1 year ago
While in Afghanistan, Jon Krakauer spent abut 48 hours on a small Surveillance mission with myself and my recon team. He could walk up any mountain we did, (and faster) he was a great story teller and though i didn't know the great gift it was at the time, he told us stories about the places he'd been and the things he'd done in his past and that was a great gift. Who knows an Author? Who knows an Author who is willing to tell stories to a group of starving soldiers and not expect anything in return? Jon Krakauer did that for us, and lifted our spirits. He only briefly spoke about what he was in Afghanistan for but asked that we remain quiet about it, so for the past few years All of us have so w wouldnt compromise his work. Thanks Jon for a New Story.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Call me a sucker, I took the bait! Without any discredit to Krakauer's penmanship and regardless of the reader's political stance, this book is an obvious political attack and all-out assault on the United States military under the guise of a tribute to a fallen hero (the latter of which I thought I was really reading about). There is no doubt that Pat Tillman is an extraordinary person and should be remembered with honor and respect. But this book is rife with politics and a slap in the face to the American military. Krakauer should have simply stated that 9/11 and all war casualties are the result of mishandled situations by the United States leadership and its military. How do discussions on the Florida presidential election recount, alleged CIA intelligence mishandling, and other politically-charged narratives pay tribute to a fallen hero? Furthermore, while Krakauer alledges that the Government's war propaganda machine was fueled by embellished battle stories, he uses Pat Tillman's good character and good intentions to deliver his own anti-war, anti-political party propaganda. Hypocritical as hell, but sure, it's a great read... If you intend to pay tribute to a great man, do so, but leave your political and military assault for another book. Don't whore out a fallen soldier's good name to push your own ideas.
Leigh30 More than 1 year ago
I just finished reading this book earlier this morning and I came away from it very upset, emotional. I had only heard of Pat Tillman a few times: when he left the NFL to join the Army and then when he was KIA by friendly fire. I remember thinking how admirable that was for a person to leave a really good job, the NFL, and join the Army to make a difference. I couldn't help but compare Tillman to Brad Pitt's character in the film "Legends of the Fall" because they were both men who were never at peace with themselves. It seemed as though Tillman was constantly doing something to try and "quiet the bear inside of him". I quickly became impressed and in awe of him after reading his journal entries - all I can say is, what a guy. I thought Krakauer did an amazing job laying the story out the way that he did. I didn't know much about how the Taliban or al-Quaeda was created or by whom but Krakauer's in-depth history lesson about it was excellent. I feel like I came away from the book armed with a lot of knowledge that I didn't have before. I'm still in disbelief about the way that the American government treated the death of Tillman, the cover-up. It was pathetic. I had no idea any of this took place until reading it in this book and I have to say that I'm very angry at the government. I'd love to be able to say "I can't believe our government would do such a thing" but I know better. I'm so glad that I read this book and got to know a little bit about Pat Tillman because I think he was an amazing man who tried to live his life to the fullest and always do the right thing. Thank you John Krakauer for bringing his story to all of us.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Where Men Win Glory: The Odyssey of Pat Tillman by Jon Krakauer is a decent book. I understand Pat's frustration on the fact that all he really wanted was to be n the fight, but was left out many times. Despite all of his opinions, he had a real appreciation for life, his family, and all the others that he allowed in his life. This book is about Pat Tillman. Pat was in the NFL, but after 9-11, Pat made probably the biggest choice of his life. He left the NFL to join the army. He was apart of an elite group known as the Rangers. He was tragically shot and killed by another comrade. If you heard about this within the following month or so of his death, you would have heard differently. This book is about the cover-up story delivered by the United States Army and the Bush Administration. I believe Jon Krakauer wrote this book to get the truth out. I understand why Krakauer wrote this book, but I think there could have been many changes. It seemed, at times, like a "Bush Bashing." I felt like he, at some points, was blaming the Bush Administration for not only the cover-up, but Pat's death also. I think this would have been better had it been about 100 pages shorter. It does into detail about too many things that don't matter, for example when Tillman gets drunk with his friends in Paris. It doesn't get to the story about his death and the cover-up till about 2/3 into the book. Other than that it is a rather good book.
Skum More than 1 year ago
Starting his career as an adventure writer, Krakauer's last two books have been investigative work. His last great book, Under the Banner of Heaven, he reports on the fringes of the Mormon Church. In this book, Where Men Win Glory, we get a biography of Pat Tillman and a look into our own military. As a football fan, I found the story of Tillman and how he became a NFL player interesting. Pat's personal life was inspiring. An honest look into our military and the amount of friendly fire and cover up of such fire is eye opening. In all of Krakauer's books you are entertained and informed. These subjects may not be political correct, which makes it all that more important that they be written about.
OzF16 More than 1 year ago
Nearly all of the negative reviews of this book criticize the political agenda and describe it as an attack on the Bush administration and the war in Iraq in general. In the Appendix of Jon Krakauer's book, Under The Banner Of Heaven, he responds to charges from LDS leadership accusing him of assaulting their religion. He begins the defense of his work with the statement, "But illuminating unpleasant historical truths is not the same as bigotry." I think this statement also applies to Krakauer's work here in Where Men Win Glory. The ugly truths that he reports in this book inevitably lead to the judgments delivered, which some might call a "political agenda." If you simply want to know about Pat Tillman, you can probably find what you're looking for by Googling him. A much richer story involves putting his odyssey into context, which Krakauer does quite well. The context of Tillman's own thoughts and feelings is gathered from his journals and interviews with his friends, family, and fellow soldiers. Tillman's sense of duty in spite of his disillusionment with the war and his successful personal and professional life that he left behind is what truly makes him a hero. But the fact that his sacrifice takes place among the backdrop of a repeated pattern of government and military deception to the public is what really makes this story compelling. In addition to the Tillman fiasco, Krakauer describes several other examples, including the drumbeat of misinformation leading up to the war in Iraq and the Jessica Lynch half-truths. I would not call this a political agenda. They are historical facts that provide the weaving in the tapestry of Krakauer's version of Tillman's odyssey, making it a compelling read and a bitter lesson in history as well.
fightthefight More than 1 year ago
I enjoy Jon Krakauer's writing and prose I will read all that he writes regardless of his politics which as many have noted he does not try to disguise. I believe bringing in current events that are happening were necessary to set the stage so to speak. For those of you who think he is harsh on the Army-he's not. Many times the higher echelon will make ignorant bonehead decisions that end up in tradegy. It is heroic men like Tillman and the rest of his platoon to include the platoon leader that skillfully modify and apply the rules that make the Army the most professional in the world. Speaking from 24 years of experience. Every parent should have thier teenage son's read this book. The book is an excellent thought provoking read start to finish.
nausetsunriseKR More than 1 year ago
When I first heard the news that Pat Tillman joined the Army, I was disgusted. "Who cares?" I thought. It seemed some publicity stunt on behalf of some gung ho football guy. When I heard the news of his death, I was equally unimpressed. All I could think about were the soldiers from my state who barely get mention on the news who died, and in some cases, suffered a fate worse than death. When I saw this book on the shelf at the local book store, I was intrigued. I knew there had to be more to the story if Krakauer took it up as a subject. Krakauer is a phenomenal writer who tells so much more than just the topic of the story at hand. The background information he provides is an education in itself. Pat Tillman is a man of amazing character, the likes of which we do not often see. Aside from a portrait of Tillman, we get treated to important information about the military operation in Afghanistan and the history of our presence ("war" time or not) in that country. We are given an idea of the cover ups put forth by the U.S. government to soldiers families when they are killed by "friendly" fire, and so much more. My husband and I have decided to give this important book to everyone on our gift list for the holidays. This is an important book and people need to read it. I promise you, you will not be disappointed by this book. In fact, you will be thankful you read it.
ImcoolLikethat More than 1 year ago
This is a well constructed story of man, virtue, history, philosophy, politics and culture. It is very thought provoking as well. Having it on audio was a great experience. I listened to it in the car and found myself looking forward to long car rides. I definitely recommend it.
loaderGA More than 1 year ago
I got this book to learn more about Pat Tillman and his noble service and tragic death by friendly fire. I really tried to ignore the political theme of blaming nearly everything on President George W Bush, but eventually it got to be too much. The author felt compelled to give a completely one-sided account of the 2000 election and Florida recount, and went downhill from there. I suppose the point is that a President Al Gore would have either prevented 9/11 or handled the aftermath in a more effective way. Sure! The first third of the book, that concentrated on Tillman's youth and football career, was quite good. If Mr. Krakauer could have only continued in a a non-political direction, it would have been a very good book indeed. As it is, only a member of what I would call the far left will get anything from it. For example, Mr. Krakauer spends a lot of time on a tragic friendly fire incident in the early Iraq invasion that resulted in 17 USMC deaths. Pat Tillman had nothing to do with this incident, except a superficial connection. Somehow, this friendly fire incident was typical of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war of lies and deceit. I wonder if the author is aware of such far worse friendly fire incidents as the UN Navy firing on aircraft carrying American paratroopers in the invasion of Sicily in 1943. Was this typical of the Roosevelt war of lies and deceit? I doubt it. I can only recommend this book to those who join the author in "Bush Derangement Syndrome."
Sweeney More than 1 year ago
Relatively little is included about Tillman's time in Afghanistan. Instead there was a huge amount on Afghanistan history, which came off as filler. The author couldn't resist a number of snide remarks about President Bush. If that is his view and Tillman's than so be it. However, I know it is not the view of most soldiers in Afghanistan. Those remarks came off as cheap and unnecessary.
bossbaggs More than 1 year ago
Krakauer does his usual thorough research and offers his trademark lucid writing in this appreciative biography of Pat Tillman. Krakauer emphasizes that Pat was both an everyday and an extraordinary person. He goes over the incident in which Pat was killed with precision. But he lavishes the same attention on Pat's childhood and youth. Tillman is not an object of anti-government caricature for Krakauer. One is left with sorrow for all the victims of wartime fratricide, and the friendly-fire toll in all wars is tragically high. And one is inspired by Pat's superlative adherence to his own code of moral conduct, his resiliency, and his love of family. You might chose to avoid the epilogue, in which Krakauer laments the lack of testosterone driven virility in men of reason.
Bellnorth More than 1 year ago
I hadn't really paid much attention to the Pat Tillman story and was interested when I saw Mr. Krakauer had written about him. Sadly, Mr. K spends a good deal of time ripping the Bush administration; whether I agree with him or not; that isn't what I purchased the book to hear. I understand that the actions of the administration underlie the Pat Tillman story; but then rename the book so I know what I am purchasing. I still would recommend the read; albeit there is a sort of emptiness in listening to the angst of Pat Tillman, both before and after 9/11/01.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Unfortunately, it took the death of a true patriot for a book like this to come about. It tells a sad story, about a great individual who paid the ultimate sacrifice. You can't help but feel for his family. Not only because of the untimely death, but because of the way the truth was hidden from them for so long.
Whitepe More than 1 year ago
An ultimately depressing read: major military muck-up followed by denial and cover-up--a total disregard for who Tillman was. Krakauer's writing feels tired and desultory as he recounts Tillman's football career (while Tillman was a great man, the background stuff goes beyond mere tedium), but as Krakauer's moral outrage climbs his prose begins to come to life. This book would be much sharper (and more interesting) if the first half were condensed to 20% of its length. Finished, I pace the house, feeling somehow hollowed out with a haunting sense of loss . . . for Tillman, for truth, for honor and glory. One has to agree with Krakauer's concluding remarks and they induce a sense of despair unalleviated by any "change" in the political winds . . . .
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
The book appears to be well researched and written.  The reader is provided by the author with in-depth insight into the exceptional individual that Patrick Tillman was..  For this we should be thankful.  However outside of the intense portrait of Tillman that the author paints the remainder of the book can be divided into two parts.  First , a story that has already been told.  That the government and the military provided a false representation of the fact that Patrick Tillman died from friendly fire is not news.  That the government used his heroism and patriotism to promote their own agenda is also not news.  Clearly Krakauer did not write a book to provide us with information that was already public knowledge.  What he proceeds to do next is to use Patrick Tillman just like the government and the military did.  In this case he uses the story of Patrick Tillman as a political tool to espouse his views on politics and to bash the Bush administration as well as the military.  The author is guilty  of using Patrick Tillman's tragic story in the same shameful manner as the government and military he is so thoroughly critical of.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Waste of time and money Tillman deserves far more than this scree against the war and the military
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I would take a pass on this book
EvanLee More than 1 year ago
The inspiring life of Patrick Tillman has been, and always will be, a story that portrays the values of honor, spirit, honesty, and courage. Today he is recognized for his willingness to leave a multi-million dollar contract for playing in the National Football League, to go serve our Nation and fight in the war against terrorism from the Taliban. The story behind the man is where you will find his efforts to find glory and freedom of self, and his overall joy for life itself. As a child growing up in Almaden, California, with his two brothers, Pat was rambunctious, adventurous, loved to talk, and very athletic. Pat played sports from soccer to football to extreme cliff diving. He was always trying to challenge himself physically and mentally to see who he was as a person. Although small for his age, Pat kept pursuing what he wanted to do and what he loved to do. He became one of the most wanted high school student/athletes by colleges all across the Nation by proving himself on and off the football field. The college that appealed most to Pat was that of Arizona State University home of the Sun Devils. Through Pats college years he exceled in his academics maintaining a 3.8 grade point average and also preformed outstandingly on the football field. Later on, Pat got married to his high school sweetheart Marie Ugenti. They had remained loyal to each other throughout the rest of Pat¿s life. After Pats college football career with the Sun Devils, Pat was drafted in 1999 to play professional football for the Arizona Cardinals making his life pursuit come true. Being one of the best defensive safety¿s in the National Football League, Pat was very different from the rest of the players. Pat was more ¿down to earth¿ according to his teammates. Instead of driving around in Cadillac¿s and Mercedes, Pat would come to football practice on his bike with his California look that included his long hair and flip flops, and his gear and pads in a bag on his back. In 2001, Pat woke up on September 11 surprised and angered at the terrorist attacks on the United States. Shortly after the 2001 football season ended, Pat made the decision to leave the NFL and serve in the United States Military to fight in the war against terrorism. After this decision Pat and his brother younger brother Kevin started boot camp in the Army. After intense training, Pat and his brother became Army Rangers making a commitment to fight for their country. They were sent to Afghanistan to start their next journey. This is a fantastic story all must read.
Celthiker More than 1 year ago
Having read other Krakauer books, I expected more from him. Very politically motivated. He comes across as very anti-military, and anti-Bush. Prior to reading this drivel, I had been really impressed with Pat Tillman and what he did, but unfortunately have lost a lot of respect for him.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
The Tillman's are used, like their son/brother/husband Pat by the author to put forth the author's agenda. The author's agenda is an anti-Bush rant that is woven through the telling of the story of a man and a family that deserve so much better than what the author gives. Having said that, the Tillman's are a special family and their courageous search for the truth is a great story. Just get by the author's efforts to use them for his own self-aggrandizement.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
I will first say that I enjoyed all of Jon Krakauer's other books. However,this book was supposed to be an "account of a remarkable young man's haunting journey." or so it claims. When I began reading the book I assumed that is what I would be reading about. While there are some interesting pieces about his life there is very little of Tillman's background laid out within the book. What I came to realize as I read was that Krakauer chose to utilize the Pat Tillman story as a vehicle to push his political agenda. If I understood going in that this book was about military mishandlings and an overall indictment of the Bush administration my review would not be so negative (although I am tired of hearing about it). If I were to tell you before you read this story that Krakauer rehashes the 2000 election you would have assumed I was probably talking about a diffrent book. My disappointment is that I feel Krakauer is misleading about the subject of his story. Plus I now need to counter Krakauer's left wing views with something written from the far right perspective to balance out the views. Hopefully the author's next book will be about a topic that he is not so biased about.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Krakauer has never disappointed, however i did find this book particularly a one-way street regarding politics.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Anonymous More than 1 year ago