You Don't Love Me Yet

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From the incomparable Jonathan Lethem, a raucous romantic farce that explores the paradoxes of love and art

Lucinda Hoekke spends eight hours a day at the Complaint Line, listening to anonymous callers air their random grievances. Most of the time, the work is excruciatingly tedious. But one frequent caller, who insists on speaking only to Lucinda, captivates her with his off-color ruminations and opaque self-reflections. In blatant defiance ...
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From the incomparable Jonathan Lethem, a raucous romantic farce that explores the paradoxes of love and art

Lucinda Hoekke spends eight hours a day at the Complaint Line, listening to anonymous callers air their random grievances. Most of the time, the work is excruciatingly tedious. But one frequent caller, who insists on speaking only to Lucinda, captivates her with his off-color ruminations and opaque self-reflections. In blatant defiance of the rules, Lucinda and the Complainer arrange a face-to-face meeting—and fall desperately in love.

Consumed by passion, Lucinda manages only to tear herself away from the Complainer to practice with the alternative band in which she plays bass. The lead singer of the band is Matthew, a confused young man who works at the zoo and has kidnapped a kangaroo to save it from ennui. Denise, the drummer, works at No Shame, a masturbation boutique. The band’s talented lyricist, Bedwin, conflicted about the group’s as-yet-nonexistent fame, is suffering from writer’s block. Hoping to recharge the band’s creative energy, Lucinda “suggests” some of the Complainer’s philosophical musings to Bedwin. When Bedwin transforms them into brilliant songs, the band gets its big break, including an invitation to appear on L.A.’s premiere alternative radio show. The only problem is the Complainer. He insists on joining the band, with disastrous consequences for all.

Brimming with satire and sex, You Don’t Love Me Yet is a funny and affectionate send-up of the alternative band scene, the city of Los Angeles, and the entire genre of romantic comedy, but remains unmistakably the workof the inimitable Jonathan Lethem.

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Editorial Reviews

Publishers Weekly
Lethem (Fortress of Solitude; Motherless Brooklyn; etc.) strays from hometown Brooklyn to recount the near-fame experience of a Los Angeles alternative rock band. Its success depends on bass guitarist Lucinda Hoekke, an unwitting femme fatale whose irrational whims torture the artsy Gen-Xers in her orbit. When the novel opens, she's answering phones for a complaint line designed to also function as a "theatrical piece" and is charmed by the eloquent gripes of one serial caller, a professional phrase writer named Carl. (He's responsible for coining "All thinking is wishful," among others.) They embark on a sex-drenched bender that culminates with the band's debut performance-a breakout success. Lucinda is the band's "secret genius," having provided the ideas for the catchiest songs; only she cribbed them from Carl, whose cooperation must be purchased with a token position in the band. Zany disaster ensues in this entertaining but largely insubstantial romantic farce. Lethem tricks out the plot with his usual social wit (music moguls are "unyouthful men in youthful clothes"), but from a writer whose previous books have carved new notches on the literary wall, this measures up as stunted growth. (Mar. 13) Copyright 2006 Reed Business Information.
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A struggling L.A. alternative rock band with no name has yet to play a gig. Matthew, the lead singer, works in the zoo and brings home a kangaroo he thinks needs better care. Denise, the drummer, works in a sex shop. Lyricist Bedwin is a genius who can't even remember to eat. Lucinda, who plays bass, answers a complaint line for a performance artist whose theatrical piece consists of a fake office with actors as the workers who answer real phone lines. One of the callers, Carl, is attracted to Lucinda, and they eventually become lovers. She begins jotting down his ramblings, which Bedwin, inspired by Carl's ingenious phrasing, turns into the band's breakout songs. However, Carl, who is a professional phrase writer, wants to be compensated for his contribution-by becoming a member of the band. Lethem's previous fiction has covered a wide range of territory, from a Western in outer space to the award-winning, mainstream Motherless Brooklyn. However, don't look for futuristic noir here. Lethem's newest is more entertaining romantic caper than daring literature. Recommended for medium to large fiction collections. [See Prepub Alert, LJ 11/1/06.]-Donna Bettencourt, Mesa Cty. P.L., Grand Junction, CO Copyright 2006 Reed Business Information.
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A Jonathan Lethem novel about the rock scene is rather like a Norman Mailer novel about Jesus Christ. We kind of knew it would happen eventually. In this one, set in contemporary L.A., Lucinda Hoekke, nearing 30, still drifting lazily through life, summons her boyfriend, zoo employee and sex magnet Matthew Plangent, to a break-up meeting at a museum where the non-art (a large white enclosure) of Lucinda's former lover Falmouth Strand is displayed. Working as a "complaint receptionist" for Falmouth (a New Age control freak entrepreneur who offers such service, seemingly just for the hell of it), Lucinda finds herself attracted to the "brilliant complainer" who arouses her recently diminished sex drive, and seeks him out-when not rehearsing with the (unnamed) band that features Matthew as vocalist, Lucinda on bass, confrontational Denise Urban (who sells sex toys at a "Masturbation Boutique") on drums and gentle Jesus-like eccentric Bedwin Greenish, who plays lead guitar and writes the songs. There's a minimal plot, in which Lucinda and the complainer (burly, aging Carl Vogelsong) get it on exhaustively, and the band-when not considering and discarding monikers like "Famous Vomit Ferry or Long-Term Pity Houseguest"-catches a break when invited to perform on midnight deejay Fancher Autumnbreast's radio show "The Dreaming Jaw," only to be sabotaged by the complainer, whose random musings have been appropriated by Lucinda and turned into song. After much air-headed conversation about "universal principles and...rock trivia," and the return to the zoo of the morose kangaroo Matthew has held "hostage," it all spins to a very downbeat (and not very good) bittersweet ending. Lucinda finds herselfapproximately where she started, and realizes she's okay with it. Lethem in a minor key. Not without its ridiculous charms, but nothing to sing about either.
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“Smart and funny . . . a biting satirical take on the intersection of art and commerce, integrity and façade. . . . A send up of all things cool.” —Los Angeles Times

“Fit to be devoured over a weekend.” —Rolling Stone

“A gentle and hip romantic comedy [that] breezes through LA's iconoclastic anonymity with a refreshing sincerity.”
The Independent

“His best since Gun, With Occasional Music . . . what makes the book sing are Lethem's accounts of what happens when a crowd on the street hears a band inside a building . . . or when for a moment four musicians understand each other better than anyone of them understands him or herself.”
—Greil Marcus, Interview

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Product Details

  • ISBN-13: 9780385512183
  • Publisher: Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group
  • Publication date: 3/13/2007
  • Pages: 224
  • Product dimensions: 5.80 (w) x 8.20 (h) x 1.00 (d)

Meet the Author

Jonathan  Lethem
Jonathan Lethem is the author of six novels, including the bestsellers THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE and MOTHERLESS BROOKLYN, which won the National Book Critics Circle Award. He is also the author of two short story collections, MEN AND CARTOONS and THE WALL OF THE
SKY, WALL OF THE EYE, and a collection of autobiographical essays, THE DISSAPOINTMENT ARTIST. His stories and essays have appeared in The New Yorker, Rolling Stone, Esquire, McSweeny's, Tin House, The New York Times and others. He was recently granted a MacArthur Genius Award. He lives in Brooklyn and Maine.

Biography

The son of artists and activists, Jonathan Lethem has always been surrounded by art and archetypes. His father, avant-garde painter Richard Brown Lethem, ensured that the household was always bustling with fellow artists, live nude models, and a creative spirit. Despite the nurturing, artistic setting, Lethem's teen years were demanding -- his mother died of cancer when he was 14, and the streets of his Brooklyn neighborhood forced him to toughen up at a young age.

Lethem's Brooklyn is rich with history and stories. Much of the world knows Brooklyn through the movies and television -- as an urban maze just outside the glitter of Manhattan. But Lethem's novels deliver a more emotional and brutal reality of the streets he called home (and still does). The Brooklyn culture of his childhood became the sidewalk on which he built his critically acclaimed Motherless Brooklyn, which won a National Book Critics Circle Award.

Lethem attended the High School for Music and Art in NYC, where he studied painting but began to hone his love of literature. An insatiable reader, he read the classic and the contemporary, including Kerouac, Mailer, Vonnegut, Chandler, Dostoevsky, Orwell, and Kafka. While still in high school, he finished a 125-page novel called Heroes. It was never published but is rumored to be the earliest form of what became The Fortress of Solitude.

After high school, Lethem attended Bennington College in Vermont but dropped out after the first semester to work on his writing. He returned to Bennington briefly, but eventually made the move to California, hitchhiking his way across the country to arrive in Berkeley in 1984. This experience, and the years he spent in San Francisco, provided the inspiration for his first three novels, Amnesia Moon(1995), As She Climbed Across the Table (1997), and Girl in Landscape (1998).

In late 1996, Lethem moved back to Brooklyn and began writing the book that would put him on the lips of every publisher and reader in the country. When Motherless Brooklyn was released in 1999, readers fell in love with its fascinating lead characters, relentless plot, and detailed setting. It was an instant success and won many awards, including the National Book Critics Circle Award.

Lethem's long-awaited next novel, The Fortress of Solitude, hit the shelves four years later, in 2003. He conducted a lot of research for the book, gaining yet another perspective on his beloved hometown. The novel is again set in Brooklyn, on Dean Street, where Lethem grew up. Over three decades, the two lead characters -- Dylan and Mingus -- experience the world through the prisms of race relations, music, and pop culture in a disturbing and compelling story of loyalty and loss, vulnerability and superhero powers.

Outside of novels, Lethem has published short fiction and lent his editing talents to a number of projects. Odd and shocking, This Shape We're In (an extended short story) is about an unforgettable trip to the hospital. The Wall of the Sky, the Wall of the Eye is a collection of seven short stories about everything from clones to professional basketball. Lethem and coauthor Carter Scholz have fun with the master of the bizarre in Kafka Americana: Fiction, a book of short stories with Kafka as the main character navigating absurd situations. Lethem edited The Vintage Book of Amnesia, short stories about the art of forgetting by such authors as Philip K. Dick, Martin Amis, and Shirley Jackson. He was guest editor of The Year's Best Music Writing 2002, essays by writers on music.

Good To Know

Lethem's original artistic impulse was to be a painter. While he remains a talented graphic artist, he first acknowledged his deep desire to write while at Bennington, where fellow classmates included Bret Easton Ellis and Donna Tartt.

Before he was a published writer, Lethem's only other jobs were in bookstores. His first bookstore job was at age 13, and he supported himself this way up to 1994 when his first novel was published. In San Francisco, he worked at the well-known Moe's Books, home of rare and antique tomes.

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    1. Also Known As:
      Jonathan Allan Lethem (full name)
    2. Hometown:
      New York, New York
    1. Education:
      Left Bennington College after two years

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one

They met at the museum to end it. There, wandering through high barren rooms full of conceptual art, alone on a Thursday afternoon, Lucinda Hoekke and Matthew Plangent felt certain they wouldn’t be tempted to do more than talk. Too, driving into the canyon of vacated plazas of downtown Los Angeles felt suitably solemn and irrevocable. The plan was not to sever as friends, or as bandmates, only as lovers.

Lucinda saw him first. A tall, malnourished vegetarian, Matthew was obliviously handsome, lead–singer handsome. He was dressed as for his work at the zoo and for the band’s practices, in black turtleneck, jeans, and speckless suede work boots, which Lucinda knew he kept in his locker when he entered the animals’ habitats. Matthew had presumably been excused from his veterinary nursing duties for the afternoon, or possibly it was his day off. For the past four years Lucinda had been assembling espresso drinks and clearing dishes at the Coffee Chairs, but she’d quit her job the day before, part of the same program of change that included this final rupture with Matthew. Instead, to pay her rent Lucinda had agreed to work for her friend, Falmouth Strand, in his storefront gallery.

On her way into the museum Lucinda had paused at two heroic pillars of neon, mounted on either side of a doorway, and seen only versions of herself and Matthew: discrete, sealed, radiant. Now, sighting Matthew, she felt her senses quicken, her balance shifting to her toes. He squinted warily at a television monitor on a white pediment, some sort of video art. Perhaps it was the case that for him, as for her, everything in the museum had been reduced to an allegory of their dilemma.Exhausted by the old tug of his beauty, his scruffy intensity and lean limbs, Lucinda was ready to send Matthew and his allure out voyaging elsewhere.

She joined silently to his side, the tiny hairs of their arms bristling together electrically. The two wandered like zombies through the exhibition, hesitating for a long while at a pair of basketballs floating perfectly suspended at midpoint in a glass water tank.

“The thing is we’ve done this so much before we’re too good at it.”

Matthew’s gaze remained fixed on the tank. “You mean there’s nothing to say.”

“Yes, but also we don't believe it’s real because we’ve fallen back together so many times afterward. We need to make a difference between this time and all those others.”

“This time we're serious, Lucinda.”

“On the other hand, the advantage to so many practice breakups is we know we still like each other, so we don’t have to worry that we’re not going to be friends.”

“Yes.”

“The band will be okay.”

“Yes.”

“If we seem like we're barely speaking to each other Denise and Bedwin will be completely confused. We can’t let the band worry about us. Bedwin’s fragile enough as it is.”

“Yes.”

“Is something else wrong?”

“It’s nothing. There’s a sort of crisis with one of the zoo’s kangaroos, that’s all.”

“You were thinking about a kangaroo just now?”

“I just kind of wish we were in someplace more private so I could hold you and maybe just kiss you a little bit.” His dark woeful eyes flitted past her, as if hounded. “I feel like I can’t even look at you.”

“I feel the same way, but that’s the point. We have to stop now, change our patterns.”

“I should stop having breakfast at the Coffee Chairs.”

“You can go to the Coffee Chairs all you like. I quit yesterday.”

“Are you serious?”

“I’m going to work for Falmouth.”

Matthew disliked Falmouth. Lucinda and Falmouth had been together, briefly, in college. Matthew had always behaved jealously around Falmouth, though he denied it.

“Work how? Doing what?”

“He offered me a job in a sort of theatrical piece he’s putting together. A fake office that needs fake office workers to answer real telephone calls.”

“Calls from who?”

“I don't know. A complaint line, he said.”

“I don’t get it.”

“I don’t either, yet. But Falmouth will make it clear. Speaking of which, he has a piece in here somewhere, he showed me once.”

“Is that why we’re here? Is this about Falmouth?”

“What are you talking about?”

“Are you trying to tell me you’re going to be with Falmouth now?”

“I could never be with Falmouth again. You know me better than that. He isn’t even going to be at the gallery most of the time, that’s why he needs to hire me. Come on, this way.”

She dragged him by the hand, through impoverished galleries, white rooms barely ornamented apart from seven tiny pyramids of wheat germ.

“Here, this is Falmouth’s thing.”

Falmouth’s object had been plopped ingloriously in the middle of an atrium, seemingly exiled. A white crate or cube. Matthew circled it skeptically.

“This white box is everything I can’t stand about contemporary everything.”

“No, wait, see, it’s not a box.”

Matthew read aloud the artwork’s identifying label, on the opposite wall. “Chamber Containing the Volumetric Representation of the Number of Hours It Took Me to Arrive at This Idea, Mixed Media, 1988.”

“It has a door, look.”

“I don't know if you're supposed to—”

“Falmouth built it, don’t worry.”

“Hey, it’s a little room.”

“See, why would all this stuff be in here if we weren’t meant to see it?”

“It’s just like Falmouth to hide the good part.”

“I wonder if there’s anything to drink in that refrigerator.”

“It would have to be like airplane drinks, little bottles.”

“Let’s find out.”

Matthew touched her at the waist and guided her through the low entrance to the chamber. “Hurry,” he said, “before anyone comes.”

Inside, she crouched, seated herself on the sled–size bed. Then took Matthew’s hand and tugged him onto her lap. “Close the door, quick.” She slid her hand along his hip, to the waist of his thready, pale–bleached jeans. He wore no underwear. His smooth belly flinched to concavity under her fingertips.

“Wait—”

“Kiss me.”

“Does this door lock?”

“Who cares, no one’s here, we’re the only ones in the whole museum.”

Lucinda braced against the tiny bedposts as Matthew wrinkled her jeans over her knees. The refrigerator slid to the room’s corner as she batted it with her toes, but there was nowhere else to put her leg. Matthew arched low to keep from topping against the room’s ceiling. Lucinda kissed his craning neck.

“The last time,” she managed.

“Of course.”

“For real, it has to be for real.”

“It is for real.”

“The band, we can’t mess up the band—”

“We won’t, they won’t know the difference, it’ll just be you and me as friends and the band will be fine.”

“Just friends now, Matthew—”

“Yes—”

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“There's a certain kind of talk I have with women,” the voice complained. “I say whatever I’m thinking about love and sex and blah, blah, blah, I’ve heard myself a thousand times. But as normal as it is for me—this kind of frank talk, I mean—for women it seems like it’s always the first time in their lives they’ve ever spoken that way.”

“There’s nothing so strange in that,” Lucinda suggested. “You’re accustomed to yourself, but you surprise others.”

“Surprise would be one thing,” said the complainer. “But I change others. I affect people. Women. Something happens to them, but nothing happens to me. The sameness of my life is confirmed by the effect I have on women. They’re always changed. Maybe if I met somebody who wasn’t surprised by me something new would happen.”

“You mean falling in love?” Perhaps the caller was only some dreary seducer, impressed with his own unresponsiveness.

“Oh, I’ve fallen in love.”

Lucinda adjusted the telephone on her shoulder and craned sideways to peer beyond the edge of the cubicle. Falmouth wasn't at the storefront gallery's reception desk. She caught scent of his coffee pot, dregs charring to a shrill odor. Vehicles coursed outside. At four in the afternoon the sun on Sunset Boulevard was as pale and flinty as morning light. Cubicles at either side of Lucinda sat empty. The office was little more than library carrels that Falmouth’s carpenters had slapped together, then painted gray.

The yellow legal pad before Lucinda lay bare. She raised her pen and mimed script in the air. “Tell me,” she said.

“Look,” he said, “I fall in love every five minutes. I might be half in love with you now.”

“You’re not the first caller to this line to say that,” she said.

“Love is everywhere.”

“I’m supposed to be writing down your complaints,” she reminded him.

“Okay, right,” he said. “Well, today’s complaint can be about what happens when I fall in love. Though I try not to, anymore. It makes me bad at being where I am.”

“I don't understand.”

“If I really fell in love with you, then when we hung up the phone I’d be stuck halfway. I’d be all disjointed in time and space, half there and half here. And I don’t even know where there is. Whereas now, we get off the phone, no trouble. I’m where I am, like the Buddhists prefer.”

“We all want to keep the Buddhists happy.”

“The little Buddhists inside of ourselves, those are the ones I worry about.”

“But you still haven’t really told me what happens when you really fall in love,” she said. “Only that you want to avoid it.”

“My eyes destroy you.”

“What?”

“I have this condition called monster eyes. I find something not to like and it becomes enormous, it becomes the whole world. Once it was a woman’s fingernails. I started to think they were too weird and short and stubby, and then it was all I could think about. I tried encouraging her to work on her cuticles, to push them up—am I disgusting you?”

“No.”

“I told myself that if she’d just work on her hands I’d go back to adoring her. But really there were other things about her voice and personality and the way she fucked that were waiting to take the place of the fingernails. I’d begun to erode and degrade her in my mind. With my monster eyes.”

Cradling the pen at the point like chalk, Lucinda wrote, in block letters, M–O–N–S–T–E–R  E–Y–E–S.

“So,” he continued, “sometimes I think the kindest thing I can do for a person is keep them out of range of those eyes. Like keeping a wolf out of moonlight.”

“You mean a wolfman,” Lucinda corrected.

“Well if he isn’t exposed to the moon it doesn't have to get to that point.”

“But isn’t a wolfman a man before he sees the moon? Rather than a wolf? But anyway, the danger in a wolfman seeing the moon isn’t to the wolfman—”

“Or the moon.”

Stymied, Lucinda drew a rudimentary wolfman on the pad: a smiley face fringed with snaky hairs. What seemed hippieish sideburns gained a fiercer cast as she scribbled them nearly to the eyes.

“The thing about a wolfman is that something repulsive emerges from hiding,” said Lucinda. “But that isn’t the fault of the person who sees it. Maybe she just had ugly hands—”

Turning, Lucinda found Falmouth scowling over her shoulder at the block letters and pie–faced wolfman on the canary pad. Where had he been lurking? Falmouth turned his wrist to show Lucinda his watch, then pointed to the phone, where a square red button of translucent plastic blinked. Another complaint, waiting to be recorded. She shrugged guiltily.

“I’m sorry, sir, our time is up,” she told the caller.

“Tell me your name,” said the complainer.

“You know I can’t do that, sir.”

“Okay, I’ll call again tomorrow.”

“That’s your prerogative,” she said into the phone. It was one of the generic replies Falmouth had originally scripted for her and the other complaint receptionists. She hung up before he could reply, and took the next call.

***

“Who were you talking to when I came in?”

“Who do you think? A complainer.”

“It sounded like you knew him.”

“He had a lot to say.” It wasn’t a lie. He’d had a lot to say the day before, too. That he’d called each day of the past week Lucinda left unmentioned.

Lucinda and Falmouth sat in white plastic chairs at the edge of Sunset Boulevard's sidewalk, under the shade of the Siete Mares patio. Falmouth faced west, squinting in the declining April sun. They’d departed the Strand Gallery for an early dinner, after the arrival of Falmouth’s two interns to man the complaint lines. Falmouth had culled the spookily young and confident interns from his students at CalArts, where he taught a class on installation art. At his gallery, a showcase solely for his own spectacles, Falmouth employed only women. Soon Falmouth would need more than three of them. The frequency of calls had mushroomed as word spread through Los Angeles, by means of bright orange stickers reading “Complaints? Call 213 291 7778,” mounted on public telephones, also by the interns, in restaurants, cocktail bars, and hotel lobbies.

Two ruined plates of fish tacos lay before them, the table covered with shreds of spilled cabbage and dots of red sauce and sour cream. Falmouth, though, sat unstained and impeccable in his trim brown sharkskin suit and vintage tie. He’d begun wearing tailored suits, polished shoes, and silk ties during his and Lucinda’s last year of college. The rest of their friends wore T–shirts and jeans, then and now. The suits debuted at the same time Falmouth had begun to lose his hair. Lucinda recalled poignantly the wisps that had wreathed Falmouth’s ears and neck, overlapping his collars, even as the bareness on top expanded, naked, undeniable, silly. Lucinda and Falmouth’s affair had been finished just before he began shaving his dome clean. Falmouth’s first and most successful piece of art was himself, installed in the larger gallery of the world.

“Don’t lose control of the dialogues, Lucinda,” Falmouth said. “You can’t begin thinking the complaint line is somehow a real service. The Echo Park Annoyance is coming tomorrow for an interview. We ought to seem institutional. As though we’re recording these complaints for some scientific or altruistic purpose, yet couldn’t care less about the yearnings of any given caller. It’s not a hipster chat line.”

Lucinda recognized Falmouth’s jabber as a symptom. “You're nervous about this interview.”

“Be dispassionate,” he said, dismissing her sympathy. “This piece needs to have a certain gloss.”

“Some men find it erotic to talk to a woman on the telephone, Falmouth. You underestimated the titillation effect. I get breathers.”

“You’re mistaken. I had titillation in mind. When you take a complaint you ought to sound like a beautiful nurse. Patient but slightly bored. As if you’re wearing a uniform that you’ll remove only after the conversation, not during. As if your real life is elsewhere.” Falmouth turned and bugged his eyes at an old woman laden with shopping bags who paused on the sidewalk, overhearing him. The woman shook her head and resumed plodding. Falmouth motioned with cupped hands, as if scooting the woman along the sidewalk by the buttocks.

“Maybe then you should have hired someone who had a real life elsewhere,” said Lucinda.

“Has it never been explained to you that self–pity undermines sarcasm? Pick one or the other, then stick with it.”

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Reading Group Guide

1. In the novel's opening scene, Lucinda and Matthew break up at an art museum (and seal their breakup by having sex inside one of the pieces on display). She meets the Complainer while taking part in a conceptual art piece, and the band plays its first live set at an art happening. What role does art play in this novel, and what might Lethem be suggesting about its relation to pop music? Does he seem to view musicians as another species of artist or, perhaps, as the opposite of artists?

2. What is Lucinda's reason for breaking up with Matthew, and why do they get back together at the novel's end? How would you compare their relationship to Lucinda's fling with the Complainer? What does the Complainer give her that Matthew couldn't? Is Lucinda flighty—this is someone who uses a giant revolving foot as an advice column—or might she be expressing some fundamental bassist's trait, the bassist being “the only player to absorb everyone's reactions” [p. 15]? Similarly, is Matthew somehow a quintessential lead singer? Is Denise a quintessential drummer? Discuss the ways Lethem develops his characters.

3. What is the significance of the characters' eccentric—and sometimes outlandish—names? Do they say something about their owners' essential traits? Is Matthew truly plangent? Is Carlton Vogelsang, whose name comes from the German for “fowling,” a hunter of a different sort? Or are these names Lethem's way of announcing that his book is a comedy and that we shouldn't take anyone in it too seriously?

4. Lucinda describes Falmouth's art project as “a fake office that needs fake office workers to answer real telephone calls” [p. 4]. Is the complaint line's fakeness the reason for its mushrooming popularity? Might the people who call it somehow intuit its spuriousness? Where else does You Don't Love Me Yet explore the opposition between the real and the fake, as well as their occasional interdependence? Which of the book's characters strike you as authentic and which as phonies? At what points do its real people start acting like counterfeits, and at what points do Lethem's phonies reveal a hitherto unsuspected authenticity? Do you think that Lethem equates phoniness with artifice and realness with artlessness? Is the disheveled Bedwin, who plays guitar sitting down and has to be reminded to eat, more authentic than the immaculate and dictatorial Falmouth?

5. From their first conversation, the Complainer gives Lucinda repeated warnings of how he will end up treating her. Why might she be drawn to a man who says he has monster eyes and speaks of his “compulsive need to disappoint” [p. 68]? Is this just the familiar pathology of self-help books? Is Lucinda a woman who loves too much? Or is the allure of the dangerous, the hopeless and disappointing a theme that runs through the entire book?

6. What do you make of the subplot involving Shelf the kangaroo? Why does Matthew respond so deeply to her unhappiness, which may exist only in his imagination? By mailing him a Polaroid of the flyer with a pleading caption, does Lucinda inadvertently provoke her kidnapping? Is Matthew's kangaphilia—his obsessive, inconvenient love for an inappropriate and smelly love object—a version of what music fans feel for their favorite groups?

7. Explaining his writer's block, Bedwin says, “I don't believe in the place where the sentences come from anymore” [p. 21]. Compare this with Carl's jaundiced observation that “the world is full of tellers” [p. 73] and his wish that Lucinda keep some aspect of their encounter a secret, one so complete that it can't even be named. Consider that for most of the novel the band is also nameless and that soon after getting a name—appropriately, Monster Eyes—it breaks up. Why might so many of the novel's characters be suspicious of language? Do you think the author shares this suspicion? What are we to make of the fact that Carl is a brilliant and inexhaustible talker who makes his living crafting phrases and that the language-agnostic Bedwin spends his time obsessively watching the same film, not for its acting or camera work but for the seemingly incidental scraps of written language that appear in the background of certain scenes?

8. Discuss the role plagiarism plays in this book. When Lucinda takes Carl's phrases to Bedwin is she using his words or stealing them? Is there a difference? Is Carl justified in portraying himself as the band's true songwriter, or do you agree with Denise when she sneers, “The lyrics you wrote . . . wouldn't amount to anything at all if we hadn't played them onstage” [p. 154]? Does the disastrous outcome of Carl's one performance with the group bear her out? The ambitious may wish to inform the discussion by reading Lethem's essay “The Ecstasy of Influence” in the February 2007 Harper's.

9. Is there something inherently ironic about a professional phrase-mongerer trying to reinvent himself as a rock musician? In hip lyrics bubbling up from the same artesian spring that produces slogans for tee shirts and coffee mugs? Or is all pop characterized by a tension between commercialism and cult, purity and crassness? In this regard, consider Carl's sticky aphorism, “You can't be deep without a surface” [p. 153]. How might this apply to the issue of plagiarism?

10. “I want what we all want,” Carl says, summing up his ambitions. “To move certain parts of the interior of myself into the external world to see if they can be embraced” [p. 152]. Is this, indeed, what the other characters—Lucinda, Denise, Matthew, Bedwin, Falmouth—want? Is it a description of the desire to create or the desire for fame? Considering that the band's notion of fame is pretty parochial and the respective size of the audiences for popular slogans and hip song lyrics, might Carl be guilty of bad judgment?

11. Is Carl the only reason why the band's appearance on The Dreaming Jaw ends so badly? What might it mean that this is the best they've ever played, and that no one is there to listen? How does this outcome fit in with Carl and Bedwin's common disaffection from language, or with Denise's complaint that “anyone who likes us already likes us for the wrong reason” [p. 121]? Are failure and unpopularity somehow essential to the novel's schema of hipness?

12. Compare this novel's scenes of love-making with its scenes of music-making. As portrayed by Lethem, what do these activities have in common? How do they differ? Are they opposed? Do developments in the novel suggest that one must make a choice between sexual and artistic fulfillment?

13. Considering several of her habits, her ill-considered liaisons with two bandmates and a man she meets on a complaint line, her boozy disregard for sound-checks, and the way she baits Matthew for his chivalry to glum marsupials, is Lucinda a bad person, perhaps as bad as Denise and Bedwin think she is? If not, what redeems her? How is she different at the novel's end? What odds do you give her and Matthew's prospects for romantic happiness and/or creative success?

14. For extra credit. How does Monster Eyes's career arc compare to those you might see on a VH-1 “Behind the Music” special? What real bands does it most resemble?

15. As a group, compose lyrics for any of the following songs: “Astronaut Food,” “Canary in a Coke Machine,” “Temporary Feeling” and “Secret From Yourself.”

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  • Anonymous

    Posted February 20, 2010

    A Decent Lethem Tale

    While I have yet to read everything that this man has written, I did find a copy of this book on sale awhile back and decided to give it a go. I thought the concept of a book based around a complaint line was exceptionally clever, and looked forward to seeing how it all played out.

    Sadly, my expectations weren't met in this regard. The complaint line has very little to do with the book itself. It's a minor plot point. Even though I didn't get what I had expected, I still found the book to be quite enjoyable.

    It's a clever examination of "art" in reality, and some of the unnecessary pretentiousness and futility that comes with it.

    1 out of 1 people found this review helpful.

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