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Boundaries in Dating: Making Dating Work

Boundaries in Dating: Making Dating Work

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by Henry Cloud, Lisa Guest, John Townsend

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All the immense value of the book is available in this complete resource kit for groups of any size. It will encourage spiritual and emotional growth and character development that enables datin— within God's boundaries—to be fun, spiritually fulfilling, and growth producing. Includes 1 leader's guide 1 participant's guide, 1 copy of Boundaries in Dating and


All the immense value of the book is available in this complete resource kit for groups of any size. It will encourage spiritual and emotional growth and character development that enables datin— within God's boundaries—to be fun, spiritually fulfilling, and growth producing. Includes 1 leader's guide 1 participant's guide, 1 copy of Boundaries in Dating and 1 120-minute video. 10 sessions.

Improve your relationships with the opposite sex! Gain life-changing insights on:

What boundaries are and why they're vital to enjoying healthy relationships

How to a pick a winner for a dating partner

How to beat personal issues that keep you from being a great date

How to solve dating problems when your date is the problem

Rules for Romance That Can Help You Find the Love of Your Life

Between singleness and marriage lies the journey of dating. Want to make the road as smooth as possible for yourself and the other singles in your group? Discover how to set and maintain healthy boundaries that make for smart, enjoyable dating and, ultimately, for fruitfulness and joy in that special relationship of a lifetime.

If many of your dating experiences have been difficult, Boundaries in Dating will revolutionize the way you handle relationships. Even if all of you are happily dating, the insights you'll gain from this ZondervanGroupware™ will help you fine-tune important areas of your dating lives.

Created by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend, authors of the best-selling book Boundaries, this kit maximizes interaction, support, and insights in your group and minimizes the preparation required of you as leader. Boundaries in Dating can help you all enjoy the kind of rewarding dating that can take you from weekends alone to a lifetime with the soul mate you've each longed for.

Boundaries in Dating kit includes: 1 120-minute video 1 Leader's guide 1 Participant's guide 1 Boundaries in Dating softcover book

Author Biography: Dr. Henry Cloud is a popular speaker, licensed psychologist, cohost of the nationally broadcast New Life Live! radio program, and cofounder of Cloud/Townsend Resources. He maintains a private practice in Newport Beach, CA.

Dr. John Townsend is a popular speaker, licensed psychologist, cohost of the nationally broadcast "Minirth Meier New Life Clinic" radio program, and cofounder of Cloud/Townsend Communications. He maintains a private practice in Newport Beach, CA.

Lisa Guest has been writing, editing, and developing curriculum since 1984. She holds a Master's Degree in English Literature from UCLA and teaches at her church whenever the opportunity arises.

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A few years back I was doing a seminar for singles in the Midwest when the question came from the floor, "Dr. Cloud, what is the biblical position on dating?" At first, I thought I had misheard the question, so I asked the woman to repeat it. And the question came out the same as the first time.

"What do you mean, 'the biblical position'?" I asked.

"Well, do you think that dating is a biblical thing to do?" the woman explained.

Once I heard her question, I thought she was kidding, but I soon realized she was not. I had heard people ask about the biblical position on capital punishment or euthanasia, but never on dating.

"I do not think the Bible gives a 'position' on dating," I said. "Dating is an activity that people do, and as with a lot of other things, the Bible does not talk about it. What the Bible does talk about is being a loving, honest, growing person in whatever you do. So, I would have to say that the biblical position on dating has much more to do with the person you are and are becoming than whether or not you date. The biblical position on dating would be to date in a holy way.

"In fact, God grows people up through dating relationships in the same way that he grows them up in many other life activities. The question is not whether or not you are dating. The questions are more along the lines of 'Who are you in your dating and who are you becoming in your dating? What is the fruit of your dating for you and for the people that you date? How are you treating them? What are you learning?' And a host of other issues that the Bible is very clear about. It is mainly about your character growth and how you treat people."

"So, you think it is okay to date?" she pressed.

"Of course, I do, but it is only okay to date within biblical guidelines, which by the way are not burdensome. They will save your life and help you to make sure you end up with a good person to marry," I said, chuckling on the inside about how often Christians want a rule.

I thought this was the end of it until the same question kept coming up around the country whenever I would speak to singles. Over and over again, I was asked if dating were an okay thing to do or not. I was curious about why people were asking the same question.

So, one day, I asked where these questions were coming from. I was told that a movement was arising from a book called I Kissed Dating Goodbye by Joshua Harris. The premise of the book is that dating is not a good idea, and many people were giving it up. As I continued to investigate, the movement went even further than the book in some circles. Many Christians were saying that dating was sinful in and of itself; others were at least feeling as if people who were still dating were less spiritual than those who didn't. It was becoming the "Christian" thing to forego dating. I thought at first that this was just in some circles, but the more I traveled around I was hearing it all over the country.

So we read I Kissed Dating Goodbye, and in this chapter we will share some of our reactions. We strongly disagree with the idea that all people should give up dating for several reasons. But before we get into the specifics, we want to validate the reasons behind this movement.

No one would take such a stance against dating without good reason, and the reason people are giving up dating seems to be this: pain, disillusionment, and detrimental effects to their spiritual life. In other words, dating has not helped them to grow, find a mate, or become a more spiritual person. So, it makes sense to kiss it good-bye.

And we empathize with this pain. As we have seen over the years working with many singles and being single for a long time ourselves (both of us were well into our thirties before we married), dating can cause a lot of hurt and suffering. Many people become disillusioned in the process, and they feel like they do not know how to make it work. They experience heartbreak, they repeatedly pick the "wrong type," they can't find the "right type," or they find the "right type" and they don't like him or her as much as the wrong type. They have trouble integrating their spiritual life into dating. And they question what to do with physical attraction and moral limits, as well as wonder when to move from casual dating to a more significant relationship.

For many people the pain and suffering of dating becomes too much, and they are ready for an alternative. And out of this motivation, we concur with the followers of the no-dating movement and its proponents. The pain of dating is not worth it if it does not lead to anything good. We understand Mr. Harris's motive for writing this book.

But we disagree with his conclusion. While we agree that the hurt must stop, we don't think that dating is the problem. We think people are. In the same way that cars don't kill people, drunk drivers do, dating does not hurt people, but dating in out-of-control ways does. Paul's advice to the Colossians is sound: "Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 'Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!'? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence" (Colossians 2: 20 - 23). Paul cautioned the Colossians that making rules and abstaining from certain practices would never develop the maturity they needed to live life.

Human problems are matters of the heart, the soul, one's orientation toward God, and a whole host of other maturity issues. As Paul says, avoiding certain things you could engage in destructively does not cure your basic problem of immaturity, which is internal not external. You may be immature and not able to handle dating, so you abstain from dating. But, unless you do something to grow up, you will still be immature, and you will take that immaturity right into marriage.

Avoiding dating isn't the way to cure the problems encountered in dating. The cure is the same as the Bible's cure for all of life's problems, and that is spiritual growth leading to maturity. Learning how to love, follow God, be honest and responsible, treat others as you would want to be treated, develop self-control, and build a fulfilling life will ensure better dating.

Meet the Author

Dr. Henry Cloud is a popular speaker, and co-host, with Dr. John Townsend, of the nationally broadcast New Life Live! Radio program, and cofounder of Cloud-Townsend Clinic and Cloud-Townsend Resources. His bestselling books include the Gold Medallion Award-winning Boundaries books and Making Small Groups Work. Dr. Cloud and his wife and two daughters live in Southern California. SPANISH BIO: El Dr. Henry Cloud es un conferenciante de gran popularidad. Con el Dr. John Townsend es anfitrion del programa de radio New Life Live!, ademas de ambos ser fundadores de la Clinica Cloud-Townsend y de la organizacion Cloud-Townsend Resources. Es el autor de varios libros premiados con el reconocimiento Medalla de Oro, entre ellos 'Limites' y 'El poder transformador de los grupos pequenos'. El Dr. Cloud, su esposa y sus dos hijas radican en el Sur de California.

Dr. John Townsend is a psychologist, popular speaker, and cohost of the nationally broadcast New Life Live! radio program, and a cofounder of Cloud-Townsend clinic and Cloud-Townsend Resources. He is coauthor of the bestselling Boundaries and author of Boundaries with Teens and Hiding from Love. SPANISH BIO: El Dr. John Townsend es un popular conferencista y un famosisimo autor de exito de ventas. Es graduado de psicologia clinica en Rosemead Graduate School of Psychology de Biola University. Ademas es coautor de numerosos libros incluyendo el ganador de la Medalla de Oro Limites. el es coanfitrion del programa radial emitido a nivel nacional New Life Live!

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Boundaries in Dating 4.4 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 34 reviews.
Guest More than 1 year ago
Cloud and Townsend examine dating issues in such a thorough and intelligent way in this book, I came away from it feeling extremely confident in my choices about relationships, dating and the single life. To their credit, they don't waiver from a solid Christian perspective and their points were explored in detail. Very accessible and good examples were given to encapsulate their arguments. Number one on a list of five books I've read on this subject.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book really gives great insights into how we relate to each other and what to look for when we are dating or thinking about dating again. We all deserve God's best and this book can help us not settle for less than His best when dating. It helps to understand your weaknesses and strengths and see others as well. It will help you see the red flags and the green ones too when getting into relationships or trying to change the ones you're in right now.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
The authors a great deal of time criticizing Harris' book "I Kissed Dating Goodbye" which I think is an excellent book. An important point to note is that Harris wrote the book when he was 22 and the book is written for teenagers. When Harris uses the term dating, he is really referring to serious relationships. Something that really isn't wise for most teens, even for those that are relatively mature. This book however is written for mature, single adults and the authors refer to dating in a less serious context as a way to get to know others. I felt it was unnecessary and unfair for them to criticize Harris without making these distinctions.
Dreamer67 More than 1 year ago
we got this for our daughter and I must say it was a steal at the cost. full of information I knew, but hadn't even thought of to mention. a real personal eye opener.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
This is good reading for those of us who want to find someone special and not just someone new. I really liked it and enjoyed what the author(s) were saying.
Guest More than 1 year ago
Having some questions in my 3 year dating relationship and was hooked on the book by the 3rd page....it was like this book was written just for me.....
Guest More than 1 year ago
I thought this book had a lot of good advise, but it failed to take into account the position of a new Christian (less thana year). Most of the advise delt with looking at a persons past experiences, judging on past relationships, but a new Christian has not established those relationships, making it difficult to relate to what the authors were saying.
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Im "obsessed" with someone in middle school...HELP?
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Throws a spear at the elk, making it run.
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Waits with his clothes off
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Stray_cat More than 1 year ago
Great advice in areas I've always wondered about. Should I say something if it bothers me or shouldn't I? After I say something, then what? Many common dating issues are covered. Using the advice, I can say, it helped. It isn't easy to take the first step in setting a boundary, but once taken, it does get easier, and can be rewarding. I highly recommend this book to anyone dating or planning to date.
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Must read this book. It is wonderful and shows the real way to respect your partener and have a healthy relationship.
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