Profitable Podcasting: Grow Your Business, Expand Your Platform, and Build a Nation of True Fans

Profitable Podcasting: Grow Your Business, Expand Your Platform, and Build a Nation of True Fans

by Stephen Woessner
Profitable Podcasting: Grow Your Business, Expand Your Platform, and Build a Nation of True Fans

Profitable Podcasting: Grow Your Business, Expand Your Platform, and Build a Nation of True Fans

by Stephen Woessner


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Did you know there's a much better tool for spreading influence and generating revenue—one with far less competition? Podcasting offers rich opportunities, especially if you get in early and do it right.

Author and CEO Stephen Woessner wants to share with you the secrets he learned in podcasting while building a $2 million venture from scratch. Profitable Podcasting lays out the precise formula Woessner has learned from experience to be necessary for creating, launching, marketing, and monetizing podcasts in any industry.

Packed with priceless production help, software recommendations, web and social strategies, schedules, checklists, and examples, this indispensable guide explains exactly how to:

  • Choose the ideal format for the type of show you are producing
  • Get the best guests
  • Create intriguing interview questions
  • Record and edit like a pro
  • Maximize buzz for the launch
  • Secure generous sponsorship
  • Achieve top rankings fast

Don’t let the tech side of this incredible marketing and sales outlet scare you away from the lucrative awards that await you once you conquer the short learning curve. With Profitable Podcasting navigating you through every step, you will reach the payoff quickly and painlessly.

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Product Details

ISBN-13: 9780814438282
Publisher: AMACOM
Publication date: 09/14/2017
Pages: 272
Sales rank: 535,348
Product dimensions: 7.30(w) x 9.20(h) x 0.80(d)
Age Range: 18 Years

About the Author

Stephen Woessner is founder and CEO of the digital marketing agency Predictive ROI, and host of Onward Nation, the top-rated daily podcast for business owners

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On the surface, this book looks a lot like a book about podcasting — which it is. But it's more than that. My team and I worked tirelessly to make this the deepest, most comprehensive resource we could assemble on the topic of podcasting for small-business owners trying to grow their businesses. I promise you will find that every aspect of creating, producing, launching, and promoting your podcast to grow your business is covered in precise detail within these pages.

Each of the technical systems are dissected, including every piece of software, the specific content in template form you will need for the systems, the guest advocacy process, how to set up distribution channels, site traffic, and analytics and why they matter, along with what it all means. We've even included success stories from a number of small-business owners who are using podcasting as a strategy to grow revenue and build true fans. Each story examines the business model and specifically how podcasting is adding value so you can apply the same principles to your business.

Nothing has been left out. It's all here.

But there is more — much more — that a small-business owner needs to know about podcasting before jumping into the deep end of the pool.

A podcast is just a tool. It's just a platform. A platform is simply a conduit for distributing or sharing content. No platform in and of itself will help your business grow revenue.

Therefore, in order for your podcast to be of value to your business, there needs to be purpose behind the guests you invite to be on your show. There needs to be purpose behind the questions you ask your guests. There needs to be purpose behind how you nurture and take care of your guests before their interviews and after their episodes have aired. Ultimately, you need a strategy for how your podcast will grow your business, expand your platform, and build your nation of true fans.

Having interviewed nearly 600 of today's top business owners — and having talked with, consulted with, or worked with many of them in producing and launching their own podcasts — I can say with certainty that there are typically three primary challenges that arise in the mind of a business owner who is considering podcasting. Some business owners need to confront all three, others perhaps just two. But every business owner will need to confront at least one.

1. How will my podcast make money and help grow my business?

2. How much time will this take me?

3. How will I get guests? (Or, the variation: What if no one accepts my invitation to be a guest on the show?)

We will address the revenue question throughout the book. But, we will dive deep into questions 2 and 3 right now because they are critically important to getting your mindset right before heading down the podcasting path. If you don't get your mindset right, I assure you, there will be setbacks and challenges along the way. Without the correct preparation you will be tempted to quit — and you likely will. However, if I help you properly set expectations, when the challenges come your way, instead of being tempted to quit, you can confidently say to yourself, "Ah, Stephen said this would happen and that I'd feel this way," and you will push forward.

Don't ever quit.

Avoid the Time Trap

One of the questions I am asked most often by business owners who have considered a podcast for their business is, "How much time will having a podcast take out of my schedule?" It's a great question because we should all protect our schedules.

Most business owners assume the answer is ten hours a week — and that the solution will require them to add staff and make other investments. But here's the reality: You can have an awesome, top-rated podcast in iTunes by investing less than four hours per month. Yes. Four hours. The system described in this book illustrates our entire process and shows how to duplicate the strategy and the results in as little as four hours per month.

Would you grow revenues faster if you invested more time? Likely yes, but four hours a month is an excellent place to start.

So why would business owners assume that my answer would be ten hours a week? Because then it would be easy for them to justify why they hadn't pursued it more seriously. But in fact, it isn't the perceived time commitment that stops a small-business owner from having a podcast.

It is fear.

Fear often rears its ugly head in an attempt to derail the entrepreneurial journey you're on. Fear will beat you to your knees if you let it. Fear will cheat you out of success in all aspects of your business, including developing a great platform like a podcast so you can grow revenue and build a nation of true fans.

Once business owners are assured that their time investment will be only about four hours per month, a second challenge typically comes to mind — one with the subconscious goal of thwarting the podcast from gaining any additional momentum, to snuff out the fire that was building.

Your Biggest, Most Painful Challenge

"Stephen, how will I get guests?" Or the variation: "What if no one accepts the invitation to be on my show?" These two fear-laden questions should serve as warning signs that something sinister is lurking. If you let them, they will keep you in check and prevent you from moving forward. The truth is, we all face such challenges. It's just that some people are better than others at pushing themselves past them.

In my opinion, this challenge may be blocking your success not just with podcasting, but in other areas of your business as well.

The challenge is known as the "impostor syndrome."

Clinical psychologists Pauline R. Clance and Suzanne Imes coined the term in 1978 to describe high-achieving individuals who are unable to internalize their accomplishments and who consequently fear being exposed as a "fraud." Actual, objective evidence of their competence doesn't matter to those who exhibit the syndrome. They remain convinced that they're frauds. They feel that they don't deserve the success they have achieved. Calling it "luck" or "good timing," they never take credit for their accomplishments. Perhaps they believe that they've tricked others into thinking they are more intelligent and competent than they actually are.

Now let's take that definition and break it down into its two core ingredients.

Ingredient #1: the inability to internalize accomplishments and a persistent fear of being exposed as a "fraud."

Have you ever walked into a meeting and felt that you weren't worthy — or that you didn't belong there? Perhaps someone on the selection committee, award committee, or board of directors had made a mistake in selecting you. Heck, maybe even some of your colleagues, family members, or friends validated your own suspicions and asked you the seemingly innocent question, "So why did they pick you?"

I began to learn about the impostor syndrome back in 2009, around the time my first book was published. I was an academic staff member at the University of Wisconsin–La Crosse. After my book became popular with small-business owners, several of the UW campuses around the state asked me to teach a class at their respective campuses. Awesome. One day I mentioned this opportunity to a family friend: I told him I was headed to the University of Wisconsin–Green Bay the next day to teach a class based on my search engine optimization (SEO) book.

My friend looked at me and said, "Well, why are they having you teach the class? Couldn't they find someone in Green Bay to teach it?"

My friend was not trying to be hurtful — not in the least. But those comments hit me hard. Never mind that my SEO book was number 3 in the United States, or that I had just been interviewed for Inc. Magazine, or any of the other credibility indicators. When he asked me that question, I actually paused and thought about it. "Yeah, why are they hiring me to teach? Am I good enough? Do I have what it takes? Am I the best they could bring in? Do I deserve to be there? Am I a fraud? Do I even know what I'm talking about?"

There is nothing unique about my story. We have all had experiences where we begin to hear the voice in our heads whispering — or in some cases shouting — "Who do you think you are?"

The impostor syndrome will work hard to hold you back.

High performers with impostor syndrome may work obsessively to prevent people from discovering that they're "impostors." And talk about a vicious cycle: The hard work leads to more praise and success, which only perpetuates the impostor feelings, leading the "impostor" to work even harder, which can lead to sleep deprivation, burnout, and worse.

Ingredient #2: The "impostor" takes the proof of success and passes it off as luck, timing, or the result of deceiving others into thinking he or she is more intelligent and competent than the person believes.

Has your business ever gone through a growth spurt that you couldn't explain? Have you ever looked around your office and suddenly realized you have some amazing people working for you and looking to you for leadership — and, yet, you cannot figure out what they see in you? Have you ever felt uncomfortable before a presentation with a new client? Did you wonder why the client invited you to the table?

Why do we ask ourselves such lousy and unfair questions?

Here's the important point that I really want you to get. When you ask yourself, "How on earth were we able to hire such amazing employees? Don't they know that we don't know what in the world we're doing?" your brain does a funny thing ... it gives you an answer.

It's a crummy answer but it's an answer. Your brain doesn't want to make you out to be a liar — so it gives you the answer to fit your story.

You start hearing things like, "Yeah, you really pulled the wool over their eyes on that one. Hope Becky doesn't figure it out — because if she leaves — then Tom is sure to leave the company, too." Or, "Why did client X invite us here? We don't really have a shot at winning this pitch, do we?"

The answer you get back might be something like, "Nope, we have no chance of winning — especially if they knew about all the mistakes we made just last week on client Z's account. We are lucky to have kept client Z; I hope X doesn't ask for references. Maybe we ought to back out of the process now."

What nonsense. You were invited into the evaluation process because you have a stellar network — perhaps stellar credentials — and you deserve to be at the table. The voice on your shoulder — the voice whispering in your ear — is the impostor syndrome.

And we all deal with it. It doesn't matter who you are thinking of right now. Tim Ferriss, bestselling author of The 4-Hour Workweek, has dealt with it. Joel Osteen has dealt with it. All of the incredible business leaders who grace the cover of Entrepreneur magazine deal with it. Every business owner — every political leader — every leader throughout history has dealt with this. George Washington did not feel he was worthy to be this country's first president. No one is immune from impostor syndrome.

But what is unique — and what is special — is when someone faces the fear of potential rejection. To quote the beautiful words of educator and behavior expert Dr. Marcie Beigel, a two-time Onward Nation guest, "Stephen ... be scared, and then do it anyway!" I loved that.

Because it is oftentimes fear — which is another way of describing impostor syndrome — that gets in your way more than anything else. You may be your own biggest constraint. Not your ability to schedule guests on your show, not your ability to sell, not the market, not your lack of customers, not your pricing, not your product quality. No, it is you. You, as the owner, set the pace and tempo of your company: either fast or slow.

I asked Dr. Marcie to share how business owners can reach that elusive next level. She was kind enough to map it out in three simple steps:

1. Get clear on what the next level is — how will you know when you're there?

2. Walk through your fear; make a plan — and just do it.

3. Find a mentor — we learn best from the people who have been there.

And let's look at all three of these.

First, get clear on what the next level is for you and your business. Well, if impostor syndrome (aka fear) is making you believe that you are not even worthy of your current level of success, then how could you possibly believe you're worthy of being the host of a top-ranked podcast?

Great question, right? Instead, perhaps you need to spend some time being thankful for what you have already accomplished by consciously acknowledging that what you have achieved has been well deserved because you worked hard and you applied your God-given gifts and talents to get there.

Now, to realize your full potential, it's time to leap off your current plateau and move onward to that next level. You deserve to be at the next level. You're an expert. The first step is to give yourself permission to define that next level so you know when you, your podcast, and your business have arrived.

Second, be scared about the next level ... and do it anyway. Kick fear to the curb. What's the worst that could happen? Prospective customers could say no. You might make a bad decision and lose some money. An employee or a group of employees may disagree with how you're redirecting the company and could decide to leave.

Okay. Are any of these life-threatening situations? Did anyone die? No? Then move on!

Stop making each decision more than it has to be. Just make a decision. Then move on. It doesn't have to be more complicated than that. As Dr. Marcie said, "Be scared and then do it anyway."

Finally, find a mentor to learn from, as Don Yaeger recommended in the Foreword of this book. More specifically, find a mentor or group of mentors who are all moving at a pace and tempo that is faster than you are. It matters who you spend your time with; if you spend your time with people who are moving at your current pace — or slower — those people may make you feel comfortable to be around, they may not challenge you, they may not push you or ask you tough questions, and it is easy to relax and unwind.

Why? Because as Coach John Wooden once said, "You will never outperform your inner circle." That's just human nature.

So you need to make sure the mentors you select are operating at a completely different level than you — a level to which you can reach and stretch. You want to get into a group of people where you don't currently belong and then work like crazy not to get left behind. In the process you'll expand and grow. You will then be able to leap from your current plateau onto the next rung.

As Onward Nation guest Scott McKain taught me, "Stephen, you cannot reach that next rung unless you are willing to let go of the current one you are hanging on to." Wise words.

You were meant for greatness. You are instilled with an infinite abundance of talent and gifts. Don't let something as small as fear limit all you were meant to be.

And, lastly, follow the advice of Coach John Wooden and "protect your inner circle."


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Table of Contents


Acknowledgments vii

Foreword by Don Yaeger ix

Introduction: How a Podcast Can Be Your Trojan Horse of Selling 1

Chapter 1: Overcome Your Biggest Obstacles to Success 13

Chapter 2: Take Your Vitals 23

Chapter 3: System Overview—Your Recipe for Success 35

Chapter 4: Grow Your Revenue 43

Chapter 5: Expand Your Platform 53

Chapter 6: Build Your Nation of True Fans 61

Chapter 7: Your Avatar, Dream 50, and My $2 Million Mistake 69

Chapter 8: Stage 1: Strategic Planning and Production Kickoff 77

Chapter 9: Stage 2: Guest Experience and Website Groundwork 89

Chapter 10: Stage 3: Audio Intros, Outros, and Design 111

Chapter 11: Stage 4: Social Media, Recording Software, and First Round of Guest Interviews 127

Chapter 12: Stage 5: Final Website Content and Show Notes 143

Chapter 13: Stage 6: Equipment, Software, and Editing Your Interviews 155

Chapter 14: Stage 7: Launch Strategy: How to Reach the Top of iTunes 167

Chapter 15: How to Be an Excellent Host 175

Chapter 16: How to Attract Sponsorships 181

Chapter 17: Getting It All Done: Recruit Rock Star Unpaid Interns 191

Epilogue: Don't Quit—Win the Oscar Instead 201

Appendix: Success Stories from Business Owners 209

Notes 247

Index 249

Customer Reviews