Saints & Sinners/John Dawson Winter III

Saints & Sinners/John Dawson Winter III

by Johnny Winter


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Saints & Sinners/John Dawson Winter III

These two albums -- contained on a single disc -- were released by Columbia in 1974, and marked the beginning of Johnny Winter's creative decline as an artist. He wouldn't rescue himself until he rescued Muddy Waters a few years later. Winter had always been eclectic, always trusted his own or his first handler Steve Paul's direction. On these two records it failed. Big production (by Rick Derringer and engineer Jimmy Iovine) on certain numbers (with strings no less) halted the surge that began with his self-titled debut album. It doesn't mean these records are total losses, there are still some fine moments: Chuck Berry's "Thirty Days" comes off well, as does the nasty, tripped out, bad gumbo called "Dirty," on which Winter plays his old National guitar -- weirdly, the flute solo (yes, flute solo) by his brother Edgar, who plays tons of instruments here works beautifully. This is an absinthe dream of a track, but it's not exactly what most of Winter's fans at the time wanted. The latter recording works a lot better because of its less schizophrenic nature, but it still suffers from FM radio-ready production in places. The hardcore faithful will want this since the individual titles are not available in the U.S., but those seeking out Johnny Winter would be better served by his debut album, or the Johnny Winter And live disc.

Product Details

Release Date: 09/18/2007
Label: Bgo - Beat Goes On
UPC: 5017261207661
catalogNumber: 766
Rank: 45895

Album Credits

Performance Credits

Johnny Winter   Primary Artist,Guitar,Vocals,Track Performer,Soloist
Rick Derringer   Bass,Guitar,Bass Guitar,Rhythm Guitar,Arp Strings
Dan Hartman   Bass,Guitar,Bass Guitar,Background Vocals
Kansas   Hand Clapping
Bobby Caldwell   Percussion,Drums
Tasha Thomas   Background Vocals
Randy Brecker   Trumpet
Edgar Winter   Organ,Piano,Keyboards,Saxophone,Alto Saxophone,Background Vocals,Clavinet,Soloist,Tack Piano,Arp Strings
Lani Groves   Background Vocals
Jo Jo Gunne   Hand Clapping
Carl Hall   Background Vocals
Randy Jo Hobbs   Bass,Bass Guitar,Track Performer
Barbara Massey   Background Vocals
Alan Rubin   Trumpet
Lew Del Gatto   Tenor Saxophone
Bobby Caldwell   Percussion,Drums
Sing-Sing Singers   Background Vocals
Jo Smith   Saxophone
Richard Hughes   Drums,Track Performer

Technical Credits

Chuck Berry   Composer
Rick Derringer   Producer,Audio Production
Mick Jagger   Composer
Steven Paul   Advisor
Allan Blazek   Engineer
Edgar Winter   Introduction
Jimmy Iovine   Engineer
Roger Nichols   Engineer
Bill Szymczyk   Engineer
Shelly Yakus   Producer,Engineer,Audio Production
John Tobler   Liner Notes
Dan Barbiero   Engineer
Karenlee Grant   Contributor

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Saints & Sinners/John Dawson Winter III 4 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 1 reviews.
JohnQ More than 1 year ago
I must take issue with the editorial reviewer: Saints and Sinners is a wonderful album and shows Johnny in excellect form. The JDWIII album is not up to the standard of Saints and Sinners so I would advise you to look for the single CD of the former album, although there is nothing particularly wrong with the later album, it just isnt a classic like the former one. But this in no way marked any "decline" for Johnny Winter. Remembering what Rock and Roll is all about while all around you are artists who have decided that there was more money in making "pop" songs does not mark any decline in the Quality of Johnny's music. If anything it marked his determination to be faithful to the power of Rock n Roll.