Between You & Me: Confessions of a Comma Queen

Between You & Me: Confessions of a Comma Queen

by Mary Norris


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"Hilarious…This book charmed my socks off." —Patricia O’Conner, New York Times Book Review

Mary Norris has spent more than three decades working in The New Yorker’s renowned copy department, helping to maintain its celebrated high standards. In Between You & Me, she brings her vast experience with grammar and usage, her good cheer and irreverence, and her finely sharpened pencils to help the rest of us in a boisterous language book as full of life as it is of practical advice.

Named a Best Book of the Year by NPR, Amazon, Wall Street Journal, Publishers Weekly, Kirkus, and Library Journal.

Product Details

ISBN-13: 9780393352146
Publisher: Norton, W. W. & Company, Inc.
Publication date: 04/04/2016
Edition description: Reprint
Pages: 240
Sales rank: 57,619
Product dimensions: 5.40(w) x 8.10(h) x 0.80(d)

About the Author

Mary Norris is the author of Greek to Me and the New York Times bestseller Between You & Me, an account of her years in The New Yorker copy department. Originally from Cleveland, she lives in New York.

Table of Contents

Introduction: Confession of a Comma Queen 1

Chapter 1 Spelling Is for Weirdos 15

Chapter 2 That Witch! 35

Chapter 3 The Problem of Heesh 57

Chapter 4 Between You and Me 77

Chapter 5 Comma Comma Comma Comma, Chameleon 92

Chapter 6 Who Put the Hyphen in Moby-Dick? 111

Chapter 7 A Dash, a Semicolon, and a Colon Walk into a Bar 131

Chapter 8 What's Up with the Apostrophe? 147

Chapter 9 F∗ck This Sh∗t 157

Chapter 10 Ballad of a Pencil Junkie 169

Epilogue: The Million-Dollar Copy Editor 193

Acknowledgments 201

Notes 205

Appendix: Some Books I Have Found Particularly Helpful 213

Index 217

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Between You & Me: Confessions of a Comma Queen 4.4 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. 12 reviews.
cloggiedownunder More than 1 year ago
“What is a semicolon, anyway?” Is it half a colon? Is it a period on top of a comma? Or an apostrophe that has been knocked down and pinned by a period?” Between You & Me: Confessions of a Comma Queen is the first book by Mary Norris, who has been on the staff of The New Yorker for some 35 years, and a Page OK’er for twenty of those. She has been referred to by some as a prose goddess, or a comma queen, and indeed, a whole chapter of this book is devoted to comma usage, and cleverly titled “Comma, comma, comma, comma, chameleon”.   This is a book that seems to be a mix of memoir, opinion piece, language textbook and history book. Norris describes the New Yorker’s Style rules (“It did sometimes feel as if we belonged to some strange cloistered order, the Sisters of the Holy Humility of Hyphens”) and some of its more eccentric personalities. This is a book packed with facts, but Norris conveys them in a manner that makes them easy to assimilate, and often treats the reader to laugh-out-loud examples such as those on the serial comma debate. And who knew there were such things as Dictionary Wars, an Apostrophe Eradication Policy (USA), an Apostrophe Protection Society (England) and a Pencil Sharpener Museum?  As well as demonstrating just why spelling, grammar and punctuation DO matter, Norris explains just what a copy-editor does, and the risks of being one (“When I finally made it to the copydesk, it was a long time before I could once again read for pleasure. I spontaneously copy-edited everything I laid eyes on”), and provides a wealth of handy hints about pronouns, hyphens, expletives (deleted and not), restrictive clauses, dashes, colons and semicolons and copulative verbs. She backs up her advice with plenty of examples, extensive references and a comprehensive index. And, of course, her punctuation is absolutely flawless!  Norris offers plenty of succinct opinions: On autocorrect: “I type “adverbial” and it comes out “adrenal,” which is like a knife thrust to my adverbial gland”. On compound words: “I was learning that the dictionary is a wonderful thing, but you can’t let it push you around, especially where compound words are concerned. Also that a hyphen is not a moral issue”. And on gender: “The idea that gender in language is decorative, a way of dressing up words, can be applied to the human body: things that identify us as male or female—breasts, hips, bulges—are decorative as well as essential to the survival of the species. Lipstick and high heels are inflections, tokens of the feminine: lures, sex apps. Those extra letters dangling at the ends of words are the genitalia of grammar” She tells us: “I would get lost in throngs of adjectives”. And when her friend remarks “There is no pleasure so acute as that of a well-placed semicolon”, Mary concludes that there must therefore be “no displeasure so obtuse as that of an ill-placed semicolon”. The Text Publishing edition has a cover designed by W.H.Chong with a very clever constructed crown for the Comma Queen. This book is informative, witty and very funny: a must for anyone who cares about what they write. 4.5 stars
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
This book was entirely delicious. I'm not sure who else would say that except another person who has spent countless hours editing the words of other writers and wrestling with the questions that arise. For example, what do you do when the author has written a sentence that flows easily and readers will have no difficulty understanding what the author means to say, but it contains a dangling participle, so that grammatically, the sentence is saying that the full moon withdrew money out of a traveler's checking account -- but every way you try to restructure the sentence so that it says what it means comes out clunky and breaks the flow of the paragraph? When I read the author's musings on this problem, it was like discovering a new family member -- I have a companion! This book is not for those looking for instructions to copy editors and writers. That's not what it's about. It is like having tea with a friend and gossiping about your acquaintances: the comma, the dash, and the apostrophe. It is like looking at the pictures your brother's family brought back from their trip to Disney World. You've been there yourself, but that only enhances your appreciation in hearing about their adventures, their likes and dislikes. It was interesting to read about working at the New Yorker magazine, which follows a very different editorial style than the Chicago style I'm used to working in. But as a person who has usually been the only copy editor in the places where I've worked, I envy a world where co-staff have hallway arguments about the allowable uses of semicolons and obscenities. What fun!
oldmanPB More than 1 year ago
i spent 10 days reading this book. it was a struggle in some places and did re-reading. it was worth the effort. ms. norris is an excellent teacher and she can bring on some laughter while getting her knowledge into your brain. if an old man can learn things, i think mary norris can be of great value to 10 year old children who would be helped to get grammar correct before they become another me. p. bloomberg old man glendale, ca
brf1948 More than 1 year ago
I received this ARC on February 17th, 2015 as a Goodreads Giveaway from W.W. Norton & Company, Inc. and Mary Norris. Thank you so much for allowing me to read this book! I started this book relatively comfortable with the level of my understanding of basic grammar. I guess I know better, now! This is a hoot! The Comma Queen has a way of putting us in our places with humor and fun. It is a must read for all New Yorker fans and other Comma Queens, as well. I will keep it around to refer to when I have a grammar problem - and that is going to be much more often now that it was before I read this.
jsymons More than 1 year ago
A smart, funny book for people who love the English language and its quirkiness from an author who knows her commas -- and a good deal more besides.
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