Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay: A Step-by-Step Guide to Help You Decide Whether to Stay In or Get Out of Your Re lationship

Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay: A Step-by-Step Guide to Help You Decide Whether to Stay In or Get Out of Your Re lationship

by Mira Kirshenbaum


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ISBN-13: 9780452275355
Publisher: Penguin Publishing Group
Publication date: 07/28/1997
Edition description: Reprint
Pages: 304
Sales rank: 35,348
Product dimensions: 5.31(w) x 7.99(h) x 0.76(d)
Age Range: 18 Years

About the Author

Mira Kirshenbaum is an individual and family psychotherapist in private practice and the clinical director of the Chestnut Hill Institute in Massachusetts. She is the author of four books, including the phenomenally successful Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay, and has appeared on many national television shows, including The Today Show, Maury Povich, Geraldo, Sally Jessy Raphael, and an ABC News special with John Stossel. She is married, has two grown children, and lives in Boston, Massachusetts.

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Table of Contents

Title Page

Copyright Page




Chapter 1 - Is You Is or Is You Ain’t My Baby?

Chapter 2 - Dancing in the Dark


Chapter 3 - Enough Is Enough

Chapter 4 - It’s Too Late, Baby

Chapter 5 - Let’s Do It, Let’s Fall in Love

Chapter 6 - You’ve Got a Hold on Me

Chapter 7 - Talk to Me

Chapter 8 - What Is This Thing Called Love?

Chapter 9 - It Don’t Mean a Thing If It Ain’t Got That Swing

Chapter 10 - All the Things You Are

Chapter 11 - Let’s Call the Whole Thing Off

Chapter 12 - You Say “Tomayto,” I Say “Tomahto”

Chapter 13 - If Ever I Should Leave You

Chapter 14 - R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Chapter 15 - Who’s Sorry Now?

Chapter 16 - I Can’t Get No Satisfaction

Chapter 17 - Love To Love You, Baby

Chapter 18 - I’ve Got You Under My Skin

Chapter 19 - Next Steps




“A wise, compassionate, and very readable book. It will bless many lives.”

—Rabbi Harold Kushner, author of When Bad Things Happen to Good People

“Kirshenbaum’s expertise allows her to pinpoint the pertinent questions.... And threaded through the book, which is written in a sympathetic, chatty, accessible style, are validating anecdotes that dramatize how other people have experienced and responded to the same problems the reader is going through.”

Publishers Weekly

“Braving her detailed questions about power, betrayal, communication, respect, intimacy, sex, and love can transform the frustration of being stuck into a decision that feels right.”


“Packed with meaty case histories.”

New York Daily News

“No fairy dust here, but a real chance for healing what Kirshenbaum calls ‘the pain and waste of relationship ambivalence.’”

Minneapolis Star Tribune

“Interesting reading and helpful in the way a good therapist can be helpful—by asking the right questions, by clarifying the answers.”

—Olga Silverstein, family therapist, author of The Courage to Raise Good Men

MIRA KIRSHENBAUM is a psychotherapist in private practice and the clinical director of the Chestnut Hill Institute in Massachusetts, where much of the research for this book was conducted. The coauthor, with Charles Foster, Ph.D., of Parent-Teen Breakthrough (also available in a Plume edition), she lives in Boston.

Also by Mira Kirshenbaum

Parent/Teen Breakthrough: The Relationship Approach

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Too good to leave, too bad to stay : a step-by-step guide to help you decide whether to stay in or get out of your relationship / Mira Kirshenbaum.

p. cm.

Includes index.

ISBN: 9781101128367

1. Man-woman relationships. 2. Relationship addiction.

I. Title.

HQ801.K57 1996

646.7’8—dc20 95-53003


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To my most important teachers: my patients. You have shared your lives with me over the years and I’m eternally grateful for everything I’ve learned from you; for your dedication to health; for how hard you work to find happiness; for your willingness to learn lessons I know are tough; for your trust.

To my mother. I know how much you’ve accomplished, and I know how hard you’ve struggled. I wish I could have helped you when you needed it most, but I was too young. Thank you for inspiring me to believe I could help others. Thank you for inspiring in me the desire to learn the truth about love.

And to my daughters. You’re the best, and you deserve a world of love.


This is a book about truth and love. It would not have been possible without the work of Dr. Charles Foster. Every word here is the product of a fifty/fifty collaboration between us. His research, insights, and ideas fill this book. We are full partners in everything. Because of him, in every way this search for the truth has been a labor of love.

I’m profoundly grateful to all the individuals whose lives and stories went into the research for Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay. They were amazingly open and helpful, and what we’ve learned from them constitutes the bricks out of which this book is built.

There are many people I must mention if I’m to thank them properly. The debt I owe each of them makes me wish I could do more, in this small space, than list their names. These people are, one way or another, colleagues, teachers, heroes, friends who’ve given something specific to me, personally or professionally, through the years here at Chestnut Hill and elsewhere. They may not even realize the value of what they’ve done for me, but it played some role in making these pages possible. To all of them I say thank you: Louise Bates Ames, Shaye Areheart, Lisa Bankoff, Susan Bickelhaupt, Ruth Bork, Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Alexia Dorszynski, Barry Dym, Dorothy Firman, Roger Fisher, Betty Friedan, Diana Huss Green, Jennifer Hack, Jay Haley, Jules Henry, Kathleen Huntington, Allan Kaprow, Alfred Kazin, Michael Kirshenbaum, Mary Jo Kochakian, Rabbi Harold Kushner, Eda LeShan, Richard Marek, Amy Mintzer, Salvador Minuchin, Nancy Moscatillo, Eli Newberger, Maury Povich, Cynthia Roe, Izzy Rudski, Ann Ruethling, Kim Schaffer, Gitta Sereny, Myron Sharaf, Judith Sills, Ivy Fischer Stone, Richard Stuart, Walter Watson, Paul Watzlawick, Rosa Wexler, Robert White, Elie Wiesel, Beth Winship, and Harold Zyskind.

Some people are sadly no longer alive to hear my gratitude for what they’ve given me. But I feel I must nonetheless express my thanks to Fred Avery, Gregory Bateson, Herbert Berghof, Martin Buber, Paul Goodman, Walter Green, Don Jackson, Pearl Karch, Virginia Satir, and Isaac Bashevis Singer.

I want to thank my daughters, Rachel and Hannah, who cared so much about this project and who expressed their love and intelligence by letting me feel the full weight of every constructive criticism they could think of.

What incredible good luck to have a mensch like Howard Morhaim as my agent. Without his gifts and his belief in me and in this project, all the people who need it would be denied the help this book offers. I am profoundly grateful to him. And a thanks to his assistant, Kate Hengerer.

My editor, Deborah Brody, has wowed me with her intelligence and enthusiasm. I thank her for caring about this book and for her marvelous ability to translate her caring into effective action that’s enabling this information to reach as many people as possible.

I’d also like to thank all the other terrific people at Penguin and Dutton who I know have helped and will help this book and me. I can’t mention everyone’s name but I would like to single out Marvin Brown, Judy Courtade, Arnold Dolin, Elaine Koster, and Peter Mayer. A thanks to Julianne Barbato for her excellent copy editing, and a thanks for the care she’s taken with my work to Jennifer Moore. Finally, I know how important Lisa Johnson’s inspired work on my behalf has been in the past and will be in the future, and I’m grateful for it. And a special thanks to Tracy Guest.

I’d like to thank all the readers of my previous book for their incredible support. It means so much to me. I’d like to particularly thank the countless numbers of people who called and wrote just to tell me how much that book helped them.

Last, but not least, I must thank those patients of mine who kept asking me to write this book. I can’t mention your names, but you know who you are.


You are not alone. There are 140 million Americans today in a relationship, and one-fifth of them—that’s 28 million people—just can’t decide whether to stay or leave.

You deserve the happiness you’re searching for. I’ve dedicated years to developing a simple but comprehensive series of questions and guidelines that will help you see clearly, once and for all, whether it’s best for you to stay in your relationship or leave it. The women and men you’ll meet here have struggled with the same issues you have. Their experiences will help you discover what’s real in your own relationship, regardless of how long you’ve been with your partner or how long you’ve been stuck in ambivalence.

This book contains only good news. If it’s best for you to stay, you’ll have the satisfying experience of facing all the issues and discovering that your relationship is truly too good to leave. You won’t be settling; you’ll know your heart is home.

And if you’ll be happiest leaving, you’ll get the reassurance that comes from finally understanding why your relationship has been too bad to stay in. When you end a relationship that deserves to end, you’re liberating two people to move on to better lives.

Either way, because you’ll see what’s best for you, you’ll be far happier than you’ve been. Everything in your life will be better. I’ve written this book to help you make this happen.

Part I



Is You Is or Is YouAin’t My Baby?

You’ve gone through a lot to get to this point.

You’ve hoped that love would be enough. And you’ve worked to resolve the problems in your relationship. And you’ve tried to accept things the way they are.

And you’ve agonized over the possibility of leaving.

But you just haven’t known what to do. Now you’re ready to face the choice that’s been weighing on your heart. That’s what this book is for—to help you discover which is best for you:

To stay in your relationship, recommitting to it free of doubt, free of holding back, free at last to pour your love and energy into the relationship and get back everything there is to get from it


To leave your relationship, finally liberating yourself from it, free of confusion, free of pain, free at last to get on with a new and better life.

Up until now you haven’t found the kind of evidence that speaks to your heart and makes clear what’s best for you. You haven’t found a sign like one of the following:

Leaving. He wouldn’t make her a sandwich. Heather had been working in the garden in the hot sun all morning, and Bill had been doing God knows what inside the house. Through the open kitchen window she’d heard him grab a beer, and she asked if he’d throw together a sandwich for her. “No, you do it,” he said, as if she’d asked him to do something too hard, too inappropriate.

That’s when it hit her, clear as day, once and for all, that his selfishness was undeniable and bottomless, that for her the relationship was over, that there was nothing here for her, and that she’d be better off getting out. And she did. And she’s never regretted it for a moment.

Staying. What had happened to the sweet woman he’d married? Now, three years later, Steve felt that Lynn had turned into someone who did nothing but complain. Then one Friday coming home from work Steve heard a song on the radio—“When a Man Loves a Woman.” Something about it got through to him, something about his having a responsibility to make sure she knew he loved her. They’d gotten so polarized, he saw, that he’d overlooked the possibility that she was unloving because he was unloving.

Steve spent that night and all weekend trying to show Lynn he loved her. It wasn’t until Sunday that it got through to her. Then she just melted. Her old sweetness came back. It was suddenly clear to Steve how easily they could overcome the problems that had been making him think of leaving. Steve decided to put all thoughts of leaving out of his mind.

Good News

It’s terribly frustrating to be able to do nothing but wait passively for signs like these. Fortunately, new hope is now entirely realistic for you. That’s why I’ve written this book. You can find answers to the questions most important to you:

• Whether the two of you really do fit together or not

• Whether the things that bother you will get better or worse

• How you’ll feel if they do get better and if they don’t

• Whether you can improve the relationship on your own or with the best of therapists

• What you’ll find if you leave and whether it’ll be better or worse than what you have now

• How to balance the responsibility you have to yourself and to the people you care about

No matter how hard it’s been for you to decide, now you can find out the truth about your relationship one way or the other, the whole truth, your own truth, the ultimate-reality-at-the-heart-of everything truth. Now you can achieve the clarity that will enable you to feel confident making one of the most important choices of your life.

But finding clarity depends on whether you actually want to find clarity in the first place or whether the most comfortable place for you is staying up in the air the way you’ve been. Your relationship is either too good to leave or too bad to stay in. But it can’t be both. So there are definite answers for you here, but if you really don’t want to come to a decision, you’ll find that out as well.

But What About Love?

We’ll talk a lot about love here. The clarity you’ll reach will also help you see how real your love is, and how strong. Love, which made everything so definite at the beginning, now makes everything more complicated. Sometimes things are terrible but your love still seems strong, and then what do you do about love? Sometimes things aren’t so bad but there’s little love left to hold them together, and then what does love mean for you?

I just want to assure you that as you see what’s right for you to do, you’ll be able to put love into perspective among all the other things you care about.


My mission is to do two things.

First, it’s to share with you the experiences of people who’ve wrestled with the issues you’re wrestling with and come out on the other side and to report what they discovered. For example, think about something that bothers you about your partner, that strongly weighs on the side of your leaving. Wouldn’t you want to know how other people bothered by that felt once they left? You’ll find that out here. And if something else pointed to a basic strength in a relationship that made people happy they stayed, you’d want to know that, too. And you will. And if yet another issue you’ve been stewing over really turned out not to make too big a difference one way or the other, you’d want to know that as well so you could stop stewing over it. And you will.

Second, my mission is to help you rediscover the value of your own experience. I’m not going to pull a rabbit out of a hat that has nothing to do with what you’ve felt and seen about your partner and your relationship. Just the opposite. We’ll keep returning to the basics of your own experience. The problem isn’t that you don’t know what’s going on; it’s that you’ve had trouble sorting it all out.

The choice you discover will be one you feel good about after you make it, and better and better about as time goes by. It will be a choice that leaves you free of regret. Which is exactly what you were looking for in the first place!


If you’ve suspected that it’s not good for you to stay up in the air, you’re right. Staying ambivalent, in fact, can cause tremendous damage. Being stuck like this can end up killing you emotionally if you stay when you should be getting out. And it can end up killing your relationship if you keep thinking about leaving when it could be fixed if you only put energy into it. You can end up being deprived of joy and of freedom, of intimacy and of hope. And it’s not as if waiting around is going to show you what’s best for you. Ambivalence doesn’t produce real answers. It’s just a dangerous trap.

Doing the Limbo

Dee, a twenty-nine-year-old buyer, had lived with Keith for four years. There were good things about the relationship, like their strong sexual chemistry, but Dee was never really happy. They kept fighting about many things, like what Dee thought of as Keith’s irresponsibility, which she was afraid would only get worse in the future.

After they broke up last year, Dee was happier. But she was lonely. Now they’re dating each other again, partly because of her sexual needs, partly because she didn’t meet anyone better, and partly because Keith promised to grow up. And so their relationship chugs on, no better than it was before, filled with the same mixture of familiarity and misery it’s always had.

Dee’s not on the verge of making a commitment one way or the other. She’s on the verge of being stuck not knowing what to do with her relationship for a long time, possibly years.

Can you believe forty years? That’s how long another woman, Kate, spent neither being in her marriage nor leaving it but miserably camped on the outskirts of it, waiting for a sign to tell her what to do.

Kate’s Story

As you’ll see in a moment, Kate’s one of the most important women in my life; and the fact that she never broke through her ambivalence had an unhealthy impact on both of us. So it’s not only professionally but personally that I’ve experienced the terrible price we all pay for not knowing what to do with our relationships, all the pain and wasted time millions of people suffer from staying endlessly undecided.

Kate had married on the rebound after getting divorced following a brief first marriage. Her second husband, now dead, had been a businessman, volatile, quirky, sometimes unpleasant, but in some ways a decent guy. They were able to put up a good front, and their friends envied what from the outside seemed like one of the better marriages in their circle. But it was hard for Kate to remember when they’d ever had much in common. They usually couldn’t talk without fighting; when they weren’t fighting there was usually nothing to talk about.

It wasn’t the most terrible marriage in the world. There was just a lot of unhappiness in it flowing from distance and discord. On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being best), Kate would’ve given it a 3. And yet she stayed in it, doing what she saw as her duty.

What do you think she should have done? Kate had two good alternatives. In spite of myths about women needing marriage, the evidence is now unmistakable that a woman like Kate could have been happy if she’d been on her own. And I believe she also could have had a chance at happiness if she’d stayed, working on the relationship more (perhaps going into couples therapy) instead of finding her energy sapped by thinking of leaving.

The Cost of Staying up in the Air. But Kate was terribly unhappy for forty years because she did neither. She waited for one milepost after another to pass—the kids starting school, her going back to work, the kids leaving home, her husband’s retiring—hoping that she’d get a sign that would tell her what to do.

Just think about what it must have been like to spend all those years thinking about leaving. It meant spending years stewing over all the things that were wrong with him and all the things that were wrong with her for staying with him. You pay a price for feasting on negativity like this. Suppose that it would have been best for Kate to leave. To live with all that negativity and not leave could only destroy your sense of yourself as a valuable, effective person. Or suppose that it would have been best for her to stay. Then living with all that negativity could only pollute and ultimately destroy what would otherwise be a viable marriage.

Kate paid another price for a lifetime of not deciding. The tension and misery she felt, directly traceable to living stuck in ambivalence, put a strain on her relationship with her children that took years to heal.

The woman I call “Kate” is my mother, with some details changed to protect her privacy (as I’ve done with all the people you’ll meet in this book), and her husband was my stepfather. In many ways, Kate’s a heroine, as a Holocaust survivor and a self-made businesswoman. But in this important way she didn’t know how to choose happiness. And in her ambivalence she’s like far too many of our parents, far too many people in middle age, and far too many people just starting out. I wrote this book to save others, to save you, from going through what my mother went through.


You may be wondering if there’s something wrong with you to feel so stuck. But the fact is that there’s an epidemic of ambivalence about many things these days. We live in an age that promotes self-awareness but fails to show us how to use our self-awareness to arrive at good decisions. We learn more and more things about ourselves without learning ways to sort them out or to sort out the feelings they generate in us.

This is particularly true when it comes to our relationships. As one actress said on TV, being interviewed about her marriage, “You’re supposed to reevaluate your relationship every day, aren’t you?” Only if you want to confuse and exhaust yourself. We’re told so many contradictory things: to be responsible to ourselves and to our partner, to be happy in ourselves and to be mature about our obligations, to fix our own lives above all else, and to fix our relationships no matter what.

Whatever love we feel for the other person feels so real, and yet we know we also have a responsibility to love ourselves. We see therapists on TV who claim they can bring any relationship back to vibrant life, but we know how difficult it is to change even the smallest thing in our own relationship.

No wonder so many of us have trouble figuring out what’s best for us to do. But you can find the clarity you’re looking for if you want to. And I believe you do want to, and that you have everything it takes to see what’s best for you.


What makes a book like this possible is the fact that an individual can be unique and yet still be similar enough to other people to learn from them. Without our similarities, medicine and psychology would be impossible. It’s because we are similar that a diagnostic test or a wonder drug can help millions.

But it’s because we’re unique that medicine and psychology remain an art as well as a science. I know as a therapist that I can’t meet my responsibility to you if I forget for a moment that you are an individual. Just because you’re similar to other people in some respects doesn’t mean there aren’t profound differences as well. And I always have to take those differences into account.

But I also can’t meet my responsibility to you if I fail to probe for the experiences that link people. That’s the power that research and clinical practice give, not just mine but that of countless others, particularly Dr. Charles Foster, whose shoulders this book stands on.

Answers at Last

This book is based on an attempt to answer questions people have asked for a long time:

• Which iffy relationships will most likely be okay and which ones are virtually unfixable?

• What makes people happy they left a relationship? What makes them happy they recommitted to it?

Our research involved talking to people in the same situation you’re in. They were asked about their ambivalent feelings and their partners’ positives and negatives. They were followed over time, during which many tried to solve their problems (and many were successful) and many ended their relationships.


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Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Too Good to Leave / Too Bad to Stay spoke to me in a way no other self-help book ever has. Mira Kirshenbaum clearly understands those of us stuck in a cycle of thinking that keeps us confused and that prevents us from acknowledging the truth of our relationships and making a decision in one direction or another. In a gentle, yet frank and straightforward manner, she guides her readers through a series of questions, purposefully designed and ordered, which if answered honestly, can help break the cycle of ambivalence. She anticipates the reactions and emotions ambivalent thinkers might have and the comments they might make which would cause them to focus on less important, or unimportant, details and redirects their thinking away from the cycle of ambivalence. She offers plenty of examples to illustrate and clarify her questions, again directing the reader away from ambivalent thinking. And with each question, once answered, she offers a response to the unasked "But how do I know it's the right decision?" thought by relating the probability of happiness and satisfaction based on the numbers of people who have made the same choice. She never tells her readers what choice to make - only that they should be true to their own feelings and desires and willing to act on the truths that make sense to them. She offers hope for the future. This is, without a doubt, a book written with the purpose of helping those who have been unable to see their way clear to helping themselves, and Mira Kirshenbaum's desire to do that is evident on every page.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
If you are looking for someone to make the decision for you, this is not the book for you. If you are looking for something to help you really examine your relationship with someone because you feel you have done your very best and need a more clear view, this is the book for you. It asks leading questions that make you actually think about the dynamics of your relationship and whether it is not as bad as you thought or worse (as was my case) than you thought. When I went looking through the books in the store and I was thumbing through it, this one hit home so hard and so accurately that I actually cried in the store.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I thought it was an excellent book. It helped me through a very difficult time of trying to decide whether to stay in a marriage or not. I finally decided that it was too broken to attempt to fix it and left. I am a happier person, and I think my ex is too. I really liked the approach of 'symptoms' as opposed to pros vs cons. If you are not sure about your relationship, if you are doubting yourself -this book is a good sanity check.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book contains lots of food for thought, but the objective, empirical presentation is irresponsible, as is the author's failure to hold the reader accountable for his or her own part in the marital discord. By the time most people pick up a book like this one, they are so angry and unhappy that it is hard for them to see their own contribution to the problem. That self-focused examination is essential if you don't want to repeat in your next marriage the exact same problems you have in this one. If you want out because you are too hard-headed to see your part in it, then this book will open the door for you to go. There is little discussion of the need for both partners to grow up - if not for themselves and their own happiness, then for the sake of their kids.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
You simply can't reduce a decision about whether to get a divorce to an objective test of what the other person brings to the relationship. If you are looking for a justification to leave your marriage and are unwilling to consider your patterns or contribution, then this book is for you. If you are interested in understanding or personal growth, then don't waste your time or money.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book ALMOST ended our marriage... If a person is unhappy and looking for someone to support them in NOT looking at themselves but blaming the partner for everything this is the book. If you want to save your marriage look elsewhere. If you are set on ending your marriage, then no need to read this unless you are looking for someone to tell you it's 'ok'.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book opened my eyes to the basic fundementals of a good relationship. It allows you to walk through your relationship and answers questions on your own. It also helps to encourage you through the process with very positive remarks here and there. I would recommend as you read this book to not only look at what is offered to you in your current relationship, but to also read this and examine yourself. There are certainly enough subjects approached to help correct either your current relationship or help you examine yourself when starting a new one.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I actually bought this book in the hopes that my husband who was waffling about leaving, putting me on an emotional roller coaster, would read it. I just brought it home, matter of factly, with some others that I was going to read. He picked it up, read it, showed up at my office the next day with flowers, saying that he wants to work it out! I asked him what changed since he was so sure he wanted to leave the day before, and he said 'the book'....
Guest More than 1 year ago
I think this book is very helpful to someone who has tried everything possible to make their relationship work including taking responsibility for their own actions in the relationship but still is stuck in ambivalence. This book gives the clarity to see the situation as it is, not as it could be or should be. Reading this book gave me alot of clarity to my 8-year, yo-yo relationship. The book does not tell you what to do, but gives you the information to make a decision that would be beneficial for everyone involved, and helps you to see that being stuck in a state of confusion is not helping your relationship one way or the other. I would definitely recommend this book to anyone who has tried everything and is still confused as to what to do about their relationship.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
YES...***DANGER*** Do the math. The author states that if even 1 answer out of 35 questions points to leaving, then the reader should leave and say good-bye. That gives the reader who is probably hurting to some degree a 1 in 34,359,738,368 chance of coming to the conclusion that working on the relationship may in fact be rewarding. That's 1 in over 34 BILLION. The questions are thought provoking, but the process of evaluation and coming to a decision is OVERWHELMINGLY biased toward leaving. Now, is that really objective? I don't think so. Again, it's not so much about issues that need a looking at, it's the logic behind making the decision that is the PROBLEM and that reveals DANGER in the form of MANIPULATION and COERCION. The author stands on grounds that she has empirically sampled a large enough population to come to her conclusions. Her thoughts are along the lines of (paraphrasing in my words), "People who have answered yes to this question, were happy they left." Follow me...There are 35 questions to answer (and she did deliberately place them in an order)... If you answer 'L' to ANY question then you can feel CONFIDENT you should LEAVE. If you answer 'S' to a question, then you can "STAY" which simply means proceed to the next question. If by some miraculous chance you make it to the end without a single 'L' you can feel confident in STAYING in your relationship. Giving credibility to the rational behind the questions she poses the reader, one must agree that there is an equal chance of answering each question one way or the other. In other words the possible outcome of each question is 50/50 or 1 in 2. After 2 questions the population of readers "staying" would be 1 in 4. After 3 questions the population of readers "staying" would be 1 in 8. After 10 questions the population of readers "staying" would be only 1 in 1024. After 15 questions the number of leavers would be 32767 and with only 1 stayer. After 20 questions there would be over 1 million leavers. All the way to 35 questions which would be over 34 billion leavers to a single stayer. The world does not even have 34 billion people. The author has not interviewed before and afters of 34 billion people and claims to be the authority on the subject. Also...the following question is the LAST (#35) question... 35. If all the problems in your relationship were magically solved today, would you still feel ambivalent about whether to stay or leave? Why did she not ask this question first? It's downright evil (M.Scott Peck) to suggest a person in emotional turmoil base his/her life long changing decisions with that kind of logic.
LemSK More than 1 year ago
The title said it all to me- I was in a relationship that was "Too good to leave [and] too bad to stay". Kirshenbaum lead me through stages of trying to solve which one was really true. Based on her experieces counseling real couples (and their happiness with their decisions to stay in or get out of relationships) this book takes a new approach to "weighing" the situation. Essentially, the book asks a series of questions that try to get to the bottom of your relationship- if it is really too broken to fix or if it has too much potential to abandon. It was very helpful to have a book that encouraged action; when you're in relationship ambivalence you put all your energy into trying to decide instead of trying to fix the situation or trying to get out and over it. By examining everything through Kirshenbaum's questions, you can hopefully decide what is best for you and act on it. I'd highly recommend this book to anyone stuck in the relationship grey area the title describes.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Sometimes we are so immersed in a situation, we cannot see clearly.
Twelve years ago, this book and it's commonsense advice helped me
come to a final decision about leaving my marriage of 25 years. It
gave situations people might be involved in - and gave clear cut
comments on these situations--Eg: "Most people in this situation found
they were happier if they stayed, or if they left the relationship"
It helped me see more clearly during a time when my self confidence and self esteem were nil. Thank you Mira.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book is very helpful if you are struggling with the decision to go or stay. I would recommend this book for people who are comtemplating marriage, as it will help to clarify your situation so you can be sure you are not making a mistake.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I was going thru a time when I just wasn't sure if I wanted to stay or go. This book made me realize what I have, and how sometimes even when we say we don't expect perfection, a lot of times we still do. Not to say that everything is roses all the time now, but I have a better way of looking at things. This book really helped me, and I was able to work on my relationship because of that.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This book generates the mind, but confuses the spirit. I read with the idea that a solid truth would emerge by the end of the book. But, is life this black and white? I doubt that. This book lists 'diagnostic criteria' to tell you to leave or stay, and then in the last chapter, it states if you answered 'yes' to any single 'diagnostic criteria' then you would be better off leaving. If only life were that simple, none of us would need self help books. On the other hand, this book did enlighten the spark of decision making in my brain. It gave concrete examples of couples that made choices that affected their life. Certainly can be used as a tool, but not as a checklist.
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Very helpful. Worth reading.
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SherylAnn62 More than 1 year ago
I thought the book made very specific points about relationships. For those who are confused about staying or leaving, it makes you think about what is important to you and what is not. It doesn't tell you what to do, but helps you decipher your feelings about situations you may be facing.
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