Go beyond the job description and get the scoop on what it’s really like to work as a senator, a marine biologist, an actress, and much, much more. This exciting guide gives the behind-the-scenes scoop on a wide variety of careers through nearly fifty intimate “day in the life” profiles of women who excel in their fields. From magazine journalism to forensic science to the most relevant new careers for today’s young women, you’ll learn exactly what to expect and how to get ahead.
In addition to providing specific, easily relatable information about a wide variety of possible professions, In Their Shoes also offers interview excerpts, practical tips, and career planning advice. Whether you’re looking for your first job or your fifth, it’s never too early (or too late) to decide what you want to be when you grow up!
About the Author
Read an Excerpt
In Their Shoes
Shonda Rhimes, Creator & Executive Producer, Grey’s Anatomy and Scandal
WHAT? Television show creators dream up TV show ideas—from sitcoms to dramas to reality shows—and convince a network to buy, produce, and broadcast their show.
WHERE? Most TV show creators work out of L.A. or New York City, since these are television industry hot spots, although they can write and develop their ideas anywhere.
HOW? TV show creators need to be amazing writers and have supersmart ideas that fit in with the current television climate. On top of that, they need an agent to set up meetings with television executives so they can pitch their idea. If the execs love the pitch, then the real fun begins in production.
$$$: Ranges dramatically depending on the show and the network . . .
DRESS CODE? Creative and cool . . . or whatever you like
STRESS FACTOR: On a scale of 1 to 10, an 8
she’s one of the hottest show creators in Hollywood, and I was thrilled to finagle an interview with Shonda Rhimes, the woman behind Grey’s Anatomy and Scandal, for this book. I spoke with Shonda about how she got her start, what it’s like to create a hit TV show, and how she gets it all done. Here’s our conversation:
ME: What did you want to do when you were a teenage girl?
SHONDA: I actually thought that I would be a novelist. I read a lot and I also watched a lot of television and old movies. But I really somehow thought that I would be a novelist. I thought that real writing was sitting in a garret somewhere, cold, starving, and pounding out the “great American novel.” I loved literature and I majored in English lit in college, but really, when it came down to it, I’m more of a pop culture girl. That’s what excites me and the stuff that I sit down to write.
ME: So how did you decide that you’d rather be writing screenplays instead of novels?
SHONDA: When I got out of school, I was working as an assistant at an ad agency. In my spare time I sat down to put pen to paper, and what came out felt much more like a screenplay than a novel. It was mostly dialogue, and that was the stuff that was really exciting to me, so I went to USC film school.
ME: And look at you now . . . you not only created Grey’s Anatomy and Scandal, but you’re also an executive producer of both series. Using Grey’s Anatomy as an example, can you tell us what you do as a creator and executive producer?
SHONDA: Well, I came up with the idea for the television series, and thus created the series. I wrote the script, I helped pick the director, and we shot the pilot, which is the first episode of a show. When your show is chosen by a network to become one of their shows, you become an executive producer, which means that I oversee the writing on all the scripts, the hiring of all the cast members, and all the editing and postproduction. In an interesting way, it’s like running a small country. . . . Grey’s Anatomy is a small country and I have to run it.
ME: That’s a good analogy. It sounds like an amazing job. Is it?
SHONDA: There are parts that are glamorous. I spend a certain amount of time doing interviews and walking down the red carpet and having hair and makeup done for those events. And you know, you do get to hang out with actors and be part of that really great creative process. But the reality of the situation is that most of my time is spent hunched over a computer trying to come up with more ideas for the show, which if you’re at all a writer, you find to be extremely fun and liberating.
ME: Was Grey’s Anatomy the first television show you created?
SHONDA: It was the second television show I pitched and sold, and it’s the first television show that was picked up and made.
ME: Wow, that’s amazing. I’m sure you know that teens are really into it.
SHONDA: Yes . . . and it’s really exciting because for me, a little bit of what I love about Grey’s Anatomy is that it’s “high school in a hospital.”
YOU ASKED . . .
“What do you tell yourself that helps you be successful?”
—ALEX, AGE 14
SHONDA ANSWERED . . .
“My father always said to me, ‘The only limit to your life is your own imagination. The only thing that’s going to stop you from doing whatever it is you want to do is your ability to envision doing it.’ When I was a teenager and he’d say that, I always felt like, ‘Oh, come on.’ But now it makes so much sense to me. If I come up with the idea, I’m pretty sure I can make it happen.”
ME: Yeah, totally . . . that’s why I’m hooked! So, what are the hours like? What’s a typical day like for you?
SHONDA: I try to get in between eight o’clock and eight thirty a.m., because it’s so quiet around here. I do a little writing, answer e-mails, and do phone calls. Everybody else sort of bustles in at about nine and the days are spent doing whatever’s necessary at the time. You know, I’ll spend a couple hours writing, I’ll spend a couple of hours in editing, and I spend a lot of time sitting in a room with the rest of the writing staff coming up with more ideas. Sometimes we’ll sit down with the cast and read the script out loud, and that gives me more ideas, and we’ll have more notes to go back and keep writing. Now that the show’s more popular, it feels like I spend an hour a day doing interviews. I grab lunch if I remember, I try to get home between seven and eight every night, which is not always possible, but I try really hard. And then I spend time with my family, write for a while longer after my family has gone to bed, and then go to bed and get up the next day and it starts all over again.
ME: That’s a packed day. Do you have a life on the weekends?
SHONDA: On the days that I take off, absolutely . . . no question. I definitely always take off Sundays. That’s my constant. I do not work Sundays mostly because I want at least one full day that I can spend with my family, giving them my full time, my full attention. Sometimes I’ll work a little bit in the morning on Saturdays, sometimes I’ll work a little in the afternoon. But sometimes I don’t do any work at all.
ME: So tell me, is working in Hollywood as cutthroat as some movies and shows portray it?
SHONDA: On my shows, we’re not very cutthroat. I mean, I think we’re fairly relaxed. I think the fact that everybody here really loves their jobs and we’re really focused on what we do keeps us from being cutthroat, because there’s a lot of work to be done and we don’t have time to worry about other people on other shows.
■ Read articles about television show creators and find out how they did it.
■ Come up with your own characters and write, write, write about them.
■ Follow the trends in TV and watch the highest-rated shows so you can see what makes a hit.
ME: Do you feel like a pioneer in television?
SHONDA: I don’t feel like a pioneer. It was a surprising statistic when it was quoted to me that I was probably the first black woman to have her own show on one of the big four networks. But I don’t feel like a pioneer so much as I feel like I’m busy still learning and I’m having a really good time while doing it. I’m trying to keep my head down and do a good job.
ME: After reading your blog, it came through loud and clear that you love your job.
SHONDA: I spend my days with the doctors of Seattle Grace Hospital, and that is not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination. You know, whether they’re in my head or I’m going to the stage to talk to the actors, it’s a very pleasant way to pass the time. And when you have a job like that, that’s the thing you’re meant to do because it doesn’t feel like work.
ME: What’s the most difficult part of your job?
SHONDA: The pace. The pace in television is lightning fast. Which means that every eight days we need a new script to shoot, every eight days I need to have a new script edited, and every eight days I need to have something ready to go on the air. So the pace is really, really exhausting and you have to keep up. I think it was David Mamet who said that writing a movie is like running a marathon, and writing in television is running a marathon until you die.
ME: That’s a great quote.
SHONDA: Yeah. And that’s what it feels like. It’s a constant never-ending pace. That’s the hardest part. That and not getting to spend as much time at home as I like.
ME: What’s it been like watching your shows not only survive on the schedule, but become breakout hits?
SHONDA: It’s been pretty shocking. It feels really surprising to me that the stuff I come up with in my head at home while wearing my pajamas is stuff that people want to watch. The stuff that the ten writers and I sit around and brainstorm is stuff that people are really interested in. It’s always amazing when you feel like people out there can look at something you’ve created and say, “I see myself in that.” They look at one of the characters and they think, That person’s a little like me. That’s an amazing feeling.
THEN TO NOW
1991: Graduated from Dartmouth College with a BA in English literature
1994: Received MFA from USC School of Cinema-Television
1995: Worked as research director for Tollin-Robbins/Mundy Lane Productions
1999: Wrote HBO original movie, Introducing Dorothy Dandridge
2002: Wrote screenplay for Crossroads, starring Britney Spears
2004: Grey’s Anatomy premiered on ABC.
2007: Private Practice premiered on ABC
2012: Scandal premiered on ABC
ME: Are there any misconceptions out there about being a TV show creator? Anything we’d be surprised to know about?
SHONDA: Many people think creating shows is a thing that men do, but more and more women are creating shows. Any time you let someone tell you it’s a closed door and you believe them, you’re setting yourself up for defeat.
ME: Do you have any advice for girls looking to do what you do?
SHONDA: Go to college. Honestly. And not just go to college, but the best thing you can do to strengthen your writing is to read as much as possible . . . to have a huge knowledge base of literature in all of its forms. I spent my entire childhood living in books, and I feel like that was the one thing that really helped me.
WHAT IT TAKES
■ Great writing talent and an endless supply of good ideas
■ A ton of persistence and drive
■ The ability to inspire others
ME: Is there anything else you want to add?
SHONDA: The women around you can be the people who uplift you. The other girls you meet, the other women you meet who are your peers, can be the people who support you and help push you forward as opposed to being your competition. That to me is the most important thing. Some of the great people who helped me in this town have been other women.
PRODUCTION ASSISTANT (entry-level position) Production assistants, or PAs, support the work of a producer, director, or other production executive. They do their fair share of fetching coffee and running errands, but they also have an opportunity to prove their commitment while learning on the job.
TV SCRIPT WRITER TV script writers work together to develop a series arc and story episode ideas, and then work solo or paired with another writer to write individual episodes. They must have a solid understanding of the show’s sensibility, as well as the characters in the series, in order to write scripts that will work on the air.
CASTING DIRECTOR Casting directors work with talent agents to identify potential actors to play the roles in a show, screening a ton of reels and reviewing headshots. After holding auditions, casting directors make their recommendations about who they think should be cast for each role.
LOCATION MANAGER Location managers handle logistics that arise when shooting at a specific location. For example, if a scene from a TV show needs to be filmed at a baseball stadium, the location manager will work with the stadium personnel to work out any logistical details so the TV show can shoot as needed.
PROP MASTER Many TV series hire prop masters to figure out what props are needed for each episode and then buy, find, or build them. Prop masters have to be creative and resourceful in figuring out ways to get the necessary props, especially when they’re working under tight budgetary constraints or the item isn’t readily available.
YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT
Scenarios USA is a nonprofit organization that gives young people ages twelve to twenty-two the chance to write scripts for short films addressing important social issues like peer pressure, HIV/AIDS, self-esteem, and body image. Winners of the “What’s the REAL DEAL?” writing contest work with professional filmmakers to turn their scripts into short films. Find out more at www.scenariosusa.org.
For more on writing in Hollywood, check out the screenwriter profile on page 267 and the movie studio executive profile on page 65.
Table of Contents
She dreamed up Grey's Anatomy's McDreamy
Shonda Rhimes * TV show creator
She knows what we're all made of
Joanne B. Sgueglia * forensic scientist
She brokers million-dollar deals
Leah Faresh Karp * real estate agent
She makes women athletes look great
Missy Park * entrepreneur
She's hard on crime
Kamala Harris * district attorney
LUNCH BREAK: SETTING GOALS
She invented a job doing everything that she loves
Jessica Weiner * actionist
She supports women with cancer
Jocelyn Warner * social worker
Matt (Damon) knows her on a first-name basis
Alli Shearmur * movie studio executive
She's the one to call in an emergency
Danielle Aust * firefighter
She's got her own action figure
Nancy Pearl * librarian
LUNCH BREAK: NETWORKING
Her work hangs in Times Square
Maureen Shirreff * advertising executive
She gets paid to snorkel
Dr. Nancy Knowlton * marine biologist
She works with the masters
Chiyo Ishikawa * museum curator
Her job's a beach
Leanne Lusk * coast guard lieutenant
She makes teen television cool
Amy Friedman * TV network executive
LUNCH BREAK: INFORMATIONAL INTERVIEWS
She gets paid to play Duck, Duck, Goose
Dr. Alice Wilder * educational psychologist
She never leaves home without her calculator
Jayne Morgan * accountant
She started her "career" when she was twelve
Severn Cullis-Suzuki * environmentalist
She runs an operating room for animals
Anke Langenbach * veterinarian
LUNCH BREAK: HOW TO RESEARCH YOUR DREAM JOB
She's always in kick-butt shape
Holly McPeak * professional athlete
She helps girls to be strong, smart, and bold
Joyce Roché * nonprofit director
She shops for the stars
June Ambrose * stylist
She gets paid to play games
Kelly McCarthy * video game programmer
She speaks for Brad (Pitt)
Cindy Guagenti * publicist
LUNCH BREAK: PAYING YOUR DUES
She changes the skyline
Heather Johnston * architect
She always flies first class
Christine Tucker * commercial airline pilot
They get paid to eat
Mary Sue Milliken & Susan Feniger * chefs
Her voice is heard around the world
Melissa Block * journalist
She works with imaginary friends
Lauren Faust * animator
LUNCH BREAK: STRESS RELIEF
She writes for the big screen
Susannah Grant * screenwriter
She welcomes babies into the world
Michelle Grandy * nurse-midwife
She's a matchmaker for lawyers
Bo Kim * recruiter
She views the world through a lens
Amanda Koster * photographer
She works all year to get ready for one big day
Linda Chen * golf tournament director
LUNCH BREAK: WHAT DOES IT TAKE?
She has to reapply for her job every six years
Barbara Boxer * senator
She's the last word at CosmoGIRL!
Susan Schulz * magazine editor
She's breaking barriers in law enforcement
Lupe Valdez * sheriff
She finds homes for artists
Anne Corbett * urban planner
Her office is in Mozambique, Africa
Michelle Carter * international development and relief worker
LUNCH BREAK: VOLUNTEERING
She helps people tune in
Miriam Kramer * yoga instructor
She knows every IKEA around the world inside and out
Ullika Pankratz * visual merchandiser
She built her own Hollywood empire
Ellen Goldsmith-Vein * talent agent
LUNCH BREAK: THE FREELANCE LIFE
She hits the "mark" for Avon
Claudia Poccia * business executive
Her work is classified
Tamara Hayman * engineer
She makes a lasting impression
Maria Carrillo * teacher
She's a pain reliever
Kay Lakey * physical therapist
She gets paid to change diapers
Sara Lynch * nanny
She gets paid to be someone else
Maura Tierney * actor
She reads books for a living
Roxanne Coady * independent bookstore owner
LUNCH BREAK: WOMEN IN THE WORKFORCE