There Was and There Was Not: A Journey Through Hate and Possibility in Turkey, Armenia, and Beyond

There Was and There Was Not: A Journey Through Hate and Possibility in Turkey, Armenia, and Beyond

by Meline Toumani

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ISBN-13: 9781250074102
Publisher: Picador
Publication date: 11/03/2015
Pages: 304
Sales rank: 642,609
Product dimensions: 5.40(w) x 8.20(h) x 0.90(d)

About the Author


Meline Toumani has written extensively for The New York Times on Turkey and Armenia as well as on music, dance, and film. Her work has also appeared in n+1, The Nation, Salon, and The Boston Globe. A journalism fellow at the Institute for Human Sciences in Vienna, Austria, she was also the coordinator of the Russian-American Journalism Institute in Rostov-on-Don, Russia. Born in Iran and ethnically Armenian, she grew up in New Jersey and California and now lives in New York City.

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Table of Contents

Part One: Diaspora
1. When We Talk About What Happened
2. Summer Camp, Franklin, Massachusetts, 1989
3. "How Did They Kill Your Grandparents?"
4. A Real Armenian
5. False Assumptions
6. "With This Madness, What Art Could There Be?"

Part Two: Alternate Realities
7. "So You Are a Bit Mixed Up Now"
8. "Armenians Are Killers of Children"
9. January 19, 2007

Part Three: Turkey
10. Paradoxes
11. Language
12. Knowing and Not Knowing
13. How to Be a Turk
14. Official History

Part Four: Armenia
15. Country on Maps
16. Hello, Homeland!
17. Reunions

Part Five: Power
18. The Narcissism of Small Similarities
19. Excess Baggage
20. Soccer Diplomacy
21. Terms

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Anonymous More than 1 year ago
Unfortunately, Toumani misrepresents Armenians and how many of us were brought up.  I am the child of genocide  survivors and I definitely was not taught to hate all Turks.  I was taught to hate what was done to Armenians and to be  aware when similar situations are engulfing other ethnic groups.   If someone who is Jewish went to Germany to learn  the language and lived among Germans to understand them better and their mindset, with the hope of finding ways of  ’softening’ the response Jews have to the Holocaust it would be comparable to what Toumani did!  The absurdity of it would be obvious.  The Turkish state doesn't even recognize what they did.  There is no other way that through hardcore research, into archives by historians which is fortunately being done, will we ever come to be in a better place than we are today.  Fortunately, there are many other Armenians, too, who are working with Turkish colleagues and friends to come to resolution. I have been active in many Armenian organizations over the years, on local and national levels, but never heard of Meline Toumani.  I don't know where her outrage at our community is coming from.  It isn't as though she has tried to work for better ways of reconciliation and has failed.  As far as I know, she has done nothing.