All Over but the Shoutin'

All Over but the Shoutin'

by Rick Bragg

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ISBN-13: 9780679774020
Publisher: Knopf Doubleday Publishing Group
Publication date: 09/28/1998
Edition description: Reprint
Pages: 352
Sales rank: 68,067
Product dimensions: 5.17(w) x 7.99(h) x 0.72(d)
Lexile: 1160L (what's this?)
Age Range: 14 - 18 Years

About the Author

Rick Bragg is a national correspondent for the New York Times. He is based in Atlanta, Georgia.

Hometown:

New Orleans, Louisiana

Date of Birth:

July 26, 1959

Place of Birth:

Possum Trot, Alabama

Education:

Attended Jacksonville State University for six months in 1970; attended Harvard University, 1992-1993

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Chapter 1: A man who buys books because they're pretty

My mother and father were born in the most beautiful place on earth, in the foothills of the Appalachians along the Alabama-Georgia line. It was a place where gray mists hid the tops of low, deep-green mountains, where redbone and bluetick hounds flashed through the pines as they chased possums into the sacks of old men in frayed overalls, where old women in bonnets dipped Bruton snuff and hummed "Faded Love and Winter Roses" as they shelled purple hulls, canned peaches and made biscuits too good for this world. It was a place where playing the church piano loud was near as important as playing it right, where fearless young men steered long, black Buicks loaded with yellow whiskey down roads the color of dried blood, where the first frost meant hog killin' time and the mouthwatering smell of cracklin's would drift for acres from giant, bubbling pots. It was a place where the screams of panthers, like a woman's anguished cry, still haunted the most remote ridges and hollows in the dead of night, where children believed they could choke off the cries of night birds by circling one wrist with a thumb and forefinger and squeezing tight, and where the cotton blew off the wagons and hung like scraps of cloud in the branches of trees.

It was about 120 miles west of Atlanta, about 100 miles east of Birmingham, close to nothin' but that dull red ground. Life here between the meandering dirt roads and skinny blacktop was full, rich, original and real, but harsh, hard, mean as a damn snake. My parents grew up in the 1940s and 1950s in the poor, upland South, a million miles from the Mississippi Delta and the Black Belt and the jasmine-scented verandas of what most people came to know as the Old South. My ancestors never saw a mint julep, but they sipped five-day-old likker out of ceramic jugs and Bell jars until they could not remember their Christian names.

Men paid for their plain-plank houses and a few acres of land by sawing and hand-lifting pulpwood onto ragged trucks for pennies a ton. They worked in the blast furnace heat of the pipe shops, loaded boxcars at the clay pits and tended the nerve gas stockpiles at the army base, carrying caged birds to test for leaks. They coaxed crops to grow in the up-country clay that no amount of fertilizer would ever turn into rich bottomland, tried in vain to keep their fingers, hands and arms out of the hungry machinery of the cotton mills, so that the first thing you thought when you saw an empty sleeve was not war, but the threshing racks. The summers withered the cotton and corn and the tornado season lasted ten months, making splinters out of their barns, twisting the tin off their roofs, yanking their tombstones out of the ground. Their women worked themselves to death, their mules succumbed to worms and their children were crippled by rickets and perished from fever, but every Sunday morning The Word leaked out of little white-wood sanctuaries where preachers thrust ragged Bibles at the rafters and promised them that while sickness and poverty and Lucifer might take their families, the soul of man never dies.

White people had it hard and black people had it harder than that, because what are the table scraps of nothing? This was not the genteel and parochial South, where monied whites felt they owed some generations-old debt to their black neighbors because their great-great-grandfather owned their great-great-grandfather. No one I knew ever had a mammy. This was two separate states, both wanting and desperate, kept separate by hard men who hid their faces under hoods and their deeds under some twisted interpretation of the Bible, and kicked the living shit out of anyone who thought it should be different. Even into my own youth, the orange fires of shacks and crosses lit up the evening sky. It seems a cliché now, to see it on movie screens. At the time, it burned my eyes.

It was as if God made them pay for the loveliness of their scenery by demanding everything else. Yet the grimness of it faded for a while, at dinner on the ground at the Protestant churches, where people sat on the springtime grass and ate potato salad and sipped sweet tea from an aluminum tub with a huge block of ice floating in it. The pain eased at family reunions where the men barbecued twenty-four hours straight and the women took turns holding babies and balancing plates on their knees, trying to keep the grease from soaking through on the one good dress they had. The hardness of it softened in the all-night gospel singings that ushered in the dawn with the promise that "I'll have a new body, praise the Lord, I'll have a new life," as babies crawled up into the ample laps of grandmothers to sleep across jiggling knees. If all else failed, you could just wash it away for a while, at the stills deep in the woods or in the highly illegal beer joints and so-called social clubs, where the guitar pickers played with their eyes closed, lost in the booze and the words of lost love and betrayal. They sang about women who walked the hills in long black veils, of whispering pines, and trains.

It was the backdrop and the sound track of our lives. I was born into it in the summer of 1959, just in time to taste it, absorb it, love it and hate it and know its secrets. When I was a teenager, I watched it shudder and gasp and finally begin to die, the pines clear-cut into huge patches of muddy wasteland and the character of the little towns murdered by generic subdivisions and generic fast-food restaurants. The South I was born in was eulogized by pay-as-you-pray TV preachers, enclosed in a coffin of light blue aluminum siding and laid to rest in a polyester suit, from Wal-Mart.

I watched the races fall into an uneasy and imperfect peace and the grip of the poverty ease. There was reason to rejoice in that, because while I was never ashamed to be a Southerner there was always a feeling, a need, to explain myself. But as change came in good ways, I saw Southernness become a fashion, watched men wear their camouflage deer-hunting clothes to the mall because they thought it looked cool, watched Hank Williams and his elegant western suits give way to pretty boys in ridiculous Rodeo Drive leather chaps. And I thought of my granddaddy Bobby Bragg, gentler than his son in some ways, who sat down to dinner in clean overalls, a spotless white shirt buttoned to the neck and black wingtip shoes.

Only the religion held. It held even though the piano players went to music school and actually learned to read notes, even though new churches became glass and steel monstrosities that looked like they had just touched down from Venus. It held even though the more prosperous preachers started to tack the pretentious title of "Doctor" in front of their name and started to spend more time at seminars than visiting the sick. It held even though the Baptists started to beat drums and allow electric guitar, even though--Jesus help us--the Church of Christ conceded in the late 1970s that it was probably not a mortal sin if boys went swimming with girls. It held. God hung in there like a rusty fish hook.

Even my father found Him at the end, or at least he went looking for Him.
It was 1974, when he was still a young man and I was a boy in my first year of high school. Several years after he abandoned us or chased us away for the last of too many times, the phone would ring in the little red house where we lived with my grandmother, through the good graces and charity of my aunt Nita and uncle Ed. It would be him, asking for my momma between bone-rattling coughs, the kind that telegraphed death, promised it. She would stop what she was doing, dust the flour from her hands or turn off the iron or put down her fork at supper, and sit for what seemed hours, silent, just listening, twisting the phone cord around and around her hands until it was so tight her fingers turned white as bone. Funny, the things that rivet themselves in your mind. Finally she would promise to pray for him, and ease the phone back onto its cradle. Then she would pick up what she was doing again, dry-eyed, but would not talk to us for a very long time.

He had been a fearsome man, the kind of slim and lethal Southern man who would react with murderous fury when insulted, attacking with a knife or a pine knot or his bare hands. When I was six I watched him kick the mortal hell out of a man in a parking lot. I cannot remember why he did it. I just remember how the man covered up his head and tried to crawl under a car to get away, but he was too fat and wedged himself half in and half out, while my daddy kicked his ass and spit on his back and called him a son of a bitch. I remember how the man's yellow sport shirt had blood on it, how his pocket change spilled out into the gravel, and how the man's children--I remember a little girl screaming--stood and watched, in terror. I distinctly remember that I was not afraid, because no matter how much red hatred clouded his eyes, how much Jim Beam or beer or homemade whiskey assaulted his brain, he never touched me. In some sick way I admired him. This was, remember, a world of pulpwooders and millworkers and farmers, of men who ripped all the skin off their knuckles working on junk cars and ignored the blood that ran down their arms. In that world, strength and toughness were everything, sometimes the only things. It was common, acceptable, not to be able to read, but a man who wouldn't fight, couldn't fight, was a pathetic thing. To be afraid was shameful. I am not saying I agree with it. It's just the way it was.

But in the end he was very afraid. The years of drinking more whiskey than water had wrecked him, and somewhere along the way, he had picked up TB. People were not supposed to still be dying of it then, in 1974, and he might have lived if he could have quit drinking and cleaned up his life. But it was the drinking that killed him, really, just as sure as if he slipped and fell and cut his throat on the broken bottle.

He was only forty, when the sickness took him down. But by the time he was scared enough of dying to try to live, to truly want to live, he was out of every option except The Cross.

He said he began to see a dark angel perched like a crow on the footboard of his bed, just waiting, expectant. He knew enough of the Gospel to be fearful of fallen angels, and he was afraid that it might have been dispatched from hell, special, to ferry him home. He said he threw shoes at it to get it to flutter away, but it returned, it always returned. I never, ever liked to listen to him when he talked drunk and crazy that way, and the phone seemed to grow hot in my hand.

He had never been inside a church in his life, back when he was young, indestructible. But as the sickness squeezed his lungs he began to hope that Jesus was more than just a fifty-cent mail-order picture enshrined in a dime-store frame on the hallway wall, that salvation was the trick card he could play right at the end and stay in the money. I know it because I asked my momma what they talked about all those times. "He talked about y'all, a little. But mostly he just wanted to talk about the Lord."

I guess it is what you do if you grow up with warnings of damnation ringing from every church door and radio station and family reunion, in a place where total strangers will walk up to you at the Piggly Wiggly and ask if you are Saved. Even if you deny that faith, rebuke it, you still carry it around with you like some half-forgotten Indian head penny you keep in your pocket for luck. I wonder sometimes if I will be the same, if when I see my life coming to an end I will drop to my knees and search my soul for old sins and my memory for forgotten prayers. I reckon so.

He would ask to see her in some of those calls, but anything my momma had for my daddy had been beaten and starved out of her a long time ago. At least, that is the conviction I had at the time. He would ask to see us, too, his sons, but too much time had gone by since he had been anything close to a father and the overpowering memories were bad, of curses and shouts and my momma motioning us away, out of the room. I had not seen him for more than a few minutes in years, since I was six and we went back to live in my grandmother's house on Roy Webb Road.

We had heard he was sick, but that information registered somewhere far below my second-hand motorcycle and my first real kiss in relevance and importance. My older brother, Sam, who was nine the last time he left us, who went outside to dig crumbs of shattered coal from the frozen mud so that we would have something to burn to stay warm, was scarred more than me by the memories, cared even less than me. My younger brother, Mark, did not have a single cognizant memory of him. I wonder sometimes if that is not a blessing, but then I think that while my older brother and I grew up with a cracked image of a father, with some vague memories of fleeting good times, he had nothing, has nothing now, as if he was hatched into this world.

Then one day my momma told me he had asked for me, only me. She said he was bad sick and it might be the last time. He said he bought me a present, and wanted to give it to me himself.

Even now, over twenty years later, I wonder if the reason I saw my father that one last time, that I heard the closest thing to a confession he would ever make, is because I responded to a dying man's cry for attention or just wanted the present, the bribe. I guess it does not really matter anymore. I went to the little house where he lived and knocked on the door, determined to stare him down, man to man, to let him know exactly what I thought of him for what he did to us, to my momma. I was going on sixteen, six feet two and 185 pounds, and had fought bloody battles over girls in the parking lot of the local Hardee's, and now and then my brothers and I mixed it up just for sport.
I was not afraid of him anymore. I was not helpless now, not some child hiding under the bed.

I know why he wanted to see me. If my daddy had a favorite, I guess I was it. I guess he thought I was smart, because he liked the fact that I would sit quiet with a book about Dick and Jane and read it so many times that I memorized it, then show off in class by reciting my page, not reading it. He liked the fact that if I got into a fight on the playground and someone had a grip on my throat, I would stick my thumb in his eye, just like he taught me when I was still just a very little boy. He was proud of the fact that, if a batter got a hit off me in baseball, I would throw the next pitch at his head. Like he taught me.

I guess he thought I was a lot like him. Even now people say that. They tell me I remind them of him in little ways. As the years slip past, it is easier to hear, but at the time I hated to hear it, think it.



He was living in a little house in Jacksonville, Alabama, a college and mill town that was the closest urban center--with its stoplights and a high school and two supermarkets--to the country roads we roamed in our raggedy cars. He lived in the mill village, in one of those houses the mills subsidized for their workers, back when companies still did things like that. It was not much of a place, but better than anything we had ever lived in as a family. I knocked and a voice like an old woman's, punctuated with a cough that sounded like it came from deep in the guts, told me to come on in, it ain't locked.
It was dark inside, but light enough to see what looked like a bundle of quilts on the corner of a sofa. Deep inside them was a ghost of a man, his hair and beard long and going dirty gray, his face pale and cut with deep grooves. I knew I was in the right house because my daddy's only real possessions, a velvet-covered board pinned with medals, sat inside a glass cabinet on a table. But this couldn't be him.

He coughed again, spit into a can and struggled to his feet, but stopped somewhere short of standing straight up, as if a stoop was all he could manage. "Hey, Cotton Top," he said, and then I knew. My daddy, who was supposed to be a still-young man, looked like the walking dead, not just old but damaged, poisoned, used up, crumpled up and thrown in a corner to die. I thought that the man I would see would be the trim, swaggering, high-toned little rooster of a man who stared back at me from the pages of my mother's photo album, the young soldier clowning around in Korea, the arrow-straight, good-looking boy who posed beside my mother back before the fields and mop handle and the rest of it took her looks. The man I remembered had always dressed nice even when there was no cornmeal left, whose black hair always shone with oil, whose chin, even when it wobbled from the beer, was always angled up, high.

I thought he would greet me with that strong voice that sounded so fine when he laughed and so evil when, slurred by a quart of corn likker, he whirled through the house and cried and shrieked, tormented by things we could not see or even imagine. I thought he would be the man and monster of my childhood. But that man was as dead as a man could be, and this was what remained, like when a snake sheds its skin and leaves a dry and brittle husk of itself hanging in the Johnson grass.

"It's all over but the shoutin' now, ain't it, boy," he said, and when he let the quilt slide from his shoulders I saw how he had wasted away, how the bones seemed to poke out of his clothes, and I could see how it killed his pride to look this way, unclean, and he looked away from me for a moment, ashamed.

He made a halfhearted try to shake my hand but had a coughing fit again that lasted a minute, coughing up his life, his lungs, and after that I did not want to touch him. I stared at the tops of my sneakers, ashamed to look at his face. He had a dark streak in his beard below his lip, and I wondered why, because he had never liked snuff. Now I know it was blood.

I remember much of what he had to say that day. When you don't see someone for eight, nine years, when you see that person's life red on their lips and know that you will never see them beyond this day, you listen close, even if what you want most of all is to run away.

"Your momma, she alright?" he said.

I said I reckon so.

"The other boys? They alright?"

I said I reckon so.

Then he was quiet for a minute, as if trying to find the words to a question to which he did not really want an answer.

"They ain't never come to see me. How come?"

I remember thinking, fool, why do you think? But I just choked down my words, and in doing so I gave up the only real chance I would ever have to accuse him, to attack him with the facts of his own sorry nature and the price it had cost us all. The opportunity hung perfectly still in the air in front of my face and fists, and I held my temper and let it float on by. I could have no more challenged him, berated him, hurt him than I could have kicked some three-legged dog. Life had kicked his ass pretty good.

"How come?"

I just shrugged.

For the next few hours--unless I was mistaken, having never had one before--he tried to be my father. Between coughing and long pauses when he fought for air to generate his words, he asked me if I liked school, if I had ever gotten any better at math, the one thing that just flat evaded me. He asked me if I ever got even with the boy who blacked my eye ten years ago, and nodded his head, approvingly, as I described how I followed him into the boys' bathroom and knocked his dick string up to his watch pocket, and would have dunked his head in the urinal if the aging principal, Mr. Hand, had not had to pee and caught me dragging him across the concrete floor.

He asked me about basketball and baseball, said he had heard I had a good game against Cedar Springs, and I said pretty good, but it was two years ago, anyway. He asked if I had a girlfriend and I said, "One," and he said, "Just one?" For the slimmest of seconds he almost grinned and the young, swaggering man peeked through, but disappeared again in the disease that cloaked him. He talked and talked and never said a word, at least not the words I wanted.

He never said he was sorry.

He never said he wished things had turned out different.

He never acted like he did anything wrong.

Part of it, I know, was culture. Men did not talk about their feelings in his hard world. I did not expect, even for a second, that he would bare his soul. All I wanted was a simple acknowledgment that he was wrong, or least too drunk to notice that he left his pretty wife and sons alone again and again, with no food, no money, no way to get any, short of begging, because when she tried to find work he yelled, screamed, refused. No, I didn't expect much.

After a while he motioned for me to follow him into a back room where he had my present, and I planned to take it and run. He handed me a long, thin box, and inside was a brand-new, well-oiled Remington .22 rifle. He said he had bought it some time back, just kept forgetting to give it to me. It was a fine gun, and for a moment we were just like anybody else in the culture of that place, where a father's gift of a gun to his son is a rite. He said, with absolute seriousness, not to shoot my brothers.

I thanked him and made to leave, but he stopped me with a hand on my arm and said wait, that ain't all, that he had some other things for me. He motioned to three big cardboard egg cartons stacked against one wall.

Inside was the only treasure I truly have ever known.

I had grown up in a house in which there were only two books, the King James Bible and the spring seed catalog. But here, in these boxes, were dozens of hardback copies of everything from Mark Twain to Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. There was a water-damaged Faulkner, and the nearly complete set of Edgar Rice Burroughs's Tarzan. There was poetry and trash, Zane Grey's Riders of the Purple Sage, and a paperback with two naked women on the cover. There was a tiny, old copy of Arabian Nights, threadbare Hardy Boys, and one Hemingway. He had bought most of them at a yard sale, by the box or pound, and some at a flea market. He did not even know what he was giving me, did not recognize most of the writers. "Your momma said you still liked to read," he said.

There was Shakespeare. My father did not know who he was, exactly, but he had heard the name. He wanted them because they were pretty, because they were wrapped in fake leather, because they looked like rich folks' books. I do not love Shakespeare, but I still have those books. I would not trade them for a gold monkey.

"They's maybe some dirty books in there, by mistake, but I know you ain't interested in them, so just throw 'em away," he said. "Or at least, throw 'em away before your momma sees 'em." And then I swear to God he winked.

I guess my heart should have broken then, and maybe it did, a little. I guess I should have done something, anything, besides mumble "Thank you, Daddy." I guess that would have been fine, would not have betrayed in some way my mother, my brothers, myself. But I just stood there, trapped somewhere between my long-standing, comfortable hatred, and what might have been forgiveness. I am trapped there still.

He could not buy my friendship, not with a library, but with the books he bought my company for as long as he wanted it that day. We went back in the living room and he unscrewed the cap on a thin pint of what I believe was George Dickel or some other brown likker. He drank it in little sips, and talked about how pretty my momma was when they were married, about a time when we all went to Texas for a summer so he could work a body and fender job, about the bulldogs he used to fight in the pits over in Rome, Georgia, about the mean woman he used to court over that way who kept a razor tucked down the neck of her blouse. He talked of a hound dog he had that could climb a tree, of the time a rattlesnake bit Boots, his momma's fat Chihuahua, and how she swelled up like a beach ball. I had heard them all before, or thought I had, when I was a child, but I cannot say it was a bad thing to hear them again.

I asked him once or twice to tell me about Korea, because I was a boy and boys are thrilled with war. But he just said nawwwwww, he didn't like to dwell on it, that I should thank the Lord I never had to go.

Finally the bottle was down to a swallow or two and he was huddled back in a corner of the couch, quiet, as satisfyingly, numbingly drunk as a man in his condition could be. The whiskey was like tonic to him, I guess. It warmed instead of burned. I just sat in a chair all the way across the room, waiting. I had experience with drunks, with him as a child, and later with kinfolks who staggered into our house for a place to sleep. I knew it was just a matter of time until he slipped into that deep, deep sleep that no amount of shaking or even a house fire would wake him from. I would take my gun, my books, and leave him forever.

Then, without any explanation of why he changed his mind and without any pretense that by talking about this war he could somehow excuse the way he lived, he told me one last story. He used his aged, ruined voice like an old man's palsied hands to pick the lock on his past, and tugged me inside.

What People are Saying About This

Willie Morris

Searingly honest, beautifully written, All Over But the Shoutin' is perhaps the most courageous thing Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Rick Bragg has ever written.

Reading Group Guide

The questions, discussion topics, and author biography that follow are intended to enhance your group's reading of Rick Bragg's All Over but the Shoutin', a haunting memoir about growing up dirt-poor in the deep South, and about struggling to leave the past behind while still deeply tied to it through bonds of love and responsibility.

1. Why does Bragg begin his memoir with the image of redbirds fighting? Why do you think he includes the story of a bird attacking its own image in the mirror?

2. In the prologue, Bragg claims several times that "this is not an important book." Does he convince us that in fact it is important? If so, how? Why does he feel that he "cannot take the chance of squandering the knowledge and the stories that [my mother] and my people hold inside them" [p. xvi]?

3. Bragg describes a memory of himself on a gunny sack that his mother is pulling through a cotton field as she works; at three, he "rides the back of the six-foot-long sack like a magic carpet" [p. 23]. How does this particular image sum up his mother's love for him? Is his mother's devotion to her sons' welfare out of the ordinary?

4. Does Bragg regret his inability to forgive his dying father? Would reconciliation have alleviated Bragg's need to compensate his mother for his father's failures? What is the significance of the gift of books by an illiterate father to his clever son?

5. Although many aspects of his family's life were ruled by poverty, Bragg was immersed in the traditions of the pinewoods, where self-reliant people were adept at music, building, and handcrafts, where "likker and religion flowed together" [p. 34]. Are certain elements of the life he describes enviable? Do you get the impression that his memories of childhood are colored by nostalgia? To what extent do you think nostalgia plays a role in the memories and experiences of everyone?

6. While many African-Americans--from Frederick Douglas to Maya Angelou--have given us their stories of growing up poor and black, the segment of society disparagingly called "poor white trash" has produced relatively few writers. Does this book change your view of the large segment of whites who live in rural poverty?

7. Although Bragg sees his background as a handicap in his profession, the unmistakably Southern way he uses the English language can be part of the appeal of his writing. One editor warned him about exploiting his gift to produce "too many pretty lines" [p. 228]. Do you agree that this is a danger for Bragg? What do you notice about his style, imagery, humor, and approach to news stories that is distinctive?

8. Did luck make the difference between Rick Bragg's life and the lives of his two brothers? Or do their different choices have more to do with temperament and character than with the hazards of fortune? Do you see Rick Bragg as a man who is more determined and driven than he admits? Why does he insist on attributing his success to luck?

9. Race relations, as Bragg shows, are complicated for poor whites in the South. What do you learn from the story of the black family down the road bringing food to Rick's mother? From his family's devotion to the demagogue George Wallace? From his work in Haiti?

10. Why is Bragg particularly drawn to stories about "living and dying and the trembling membrane in between" [p. 139]? Why is he so good at writing about violence and tragedy? What is it about journalism that most disturbs him?

11. Has Bragg's attempt to compensate for his mother's unhappy life contributed to his inability to settle down with someone? Is his avoidance of intimacy a legacy from his father or is it simply the syndrome of a successful and driven man who doesn't have time to attend to the emotional side of life?

12. Despite the revolution in American life that was brought about by the women's movement, the culture of the South is well known for its lingering devotion to ideals of chivalry. Does Rick Bragg raise his mother onto a pedestal? Does he risk turning her into a passive heroine who depends upon his help?

13. What, if any, are the definitive class barriers in our society? Does having been born poor mean that a person will always feel inferior to those who weren't? Do financial or professional achievements raise a person's "class" level? Is Bragg justified in his resentment of those who seem sophisticated or "elite" to him--the wealthy people of the South or people he meets at Harvard and at The New York Times?

14. Bragg's response to the Susan Smith case is particularly interesting. What does he identify with in her? Why is he so scornful of her?

15. What aspect of Bragg's youth was most damaging to his sense of himself? Is it possible for him to "belong" anywhere? Can winning the Pulitzer Prize make him an insider in the profession of journalism? Is the rootless life of a journalist appropriate for him?

16. With his urgent desire to make up his mother's losses, Bragg struggles between his impulse to "rewrite history so late in the volume of our lives" [p. 272] and the more realistic, if discouraging, realization that "you can't fix everything" [p. 312]. Is he sacrificing himself for his mother? Or is he what he does more for his own sake than hers?

17. Why does Bragg address one of the final chapters of his book to his father? How accurate is he in saying to his father, "I am just like you" [p. 318]? What has he learned in the process of writing this memoir? Why is his honesty so moving?

Interviews

On Sunday, November 2nd, barnesandnoble.com welcomed Rick Bragg to discuss ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTIN'.


Moderator from barnesandnoble.com: Welcome, Rick Bragg. Thanks for joining us online this evening to discuss ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTIN'.

Wendy Christopher Seesock from Auburn, AL: I am almost finished reading your incredible book about home and your experiences. It has really touched me and those in my family who have read it. What is your favorite type of story -- those around home or those that you have to travel some distance to find? I also want to offer my congratulations -- you have a wonderful gift for storytelling in a very personal way.

Rick Bragg: First, thank you. One of the best things about this book is that it's touched people with my accent. The stories that touch you the deepest are the ones that happen in your own backyard. I'm a fan of southern writers, the ones that have passed on and the ones that are still writing, and the reason for that is that they write about dirt roads and pine barrens and things that are important.


Gardner from Palo Alto: I have two questions for you, Mr. Bragg, Is that your mom on the cover of your book? Also, how did you come up with the title of the book?

Rick Bragg: It is my mom on the cover -- the picture was made about the time I was born, when she was the prettiest woman in Calhoun County. And the title was one of the last things that my dad said to me when he was alive. He looked bad, he was dying, and I think when he saw the reaction on my face when I saw how near death he seemed to be, he said, "It's all over but the shoutin' for me, ain't it, boy?"


Dennis Firestine from Bronx, NY: Has working at The New York Times as a news reporter helped or hindered your ability to use the memoir form, with its greater subjectivity and use of interior monologue?

Rick Bragg: I think that any kind of writing, whether it be for The New York Times or in your diary, flexes a muscle in you. I don't write a New York Times formula; they let me write in a southern gothic style. I don't write in any Times-sponsored style, so I don't think it hinders it at all.


Mitzi from plumbjq@niven.imsweb.net: What is it like to write a book about your past? I want to do it so much and don't know where or how to start. I am also from Florida. I'm single but have three dogs and a bedridden mom -- I love her so and want to make her last days special. Thank you for listening.

Rick Bragg: The only way to write is to sit down and put the words on paper. Sometimes you find an outlet for it and sometimes you don't. But I don't think it's wasted time to put the words on paper. I wish you the best of luck with your difficult responsibility.


Ellen Spiceland from Marietta: I have enjoyed your book so much, and my son has promised to read it as well. I would like to know if you are currently working on another book.

Rick Bragg: I'm not working on another book, but I have an idea for a novel that would be written in the same voice as this memoir. Right now I have to go back and do my day job, but I would like to do a novel in which all the good guys win and the bad guys lose and there's no ambiguity that the truth demands.


Stuart Waldrum from New Jersey: Rick, who is the author you most admire ?

Rick Bragg: That's hard.... I think Robert Penn Warren's ALL THE KING'S MEN is a great, great book. I also truly admire Pat Conroy, Larry McMurtry, Willie Morris, Eudora Welty....


Jim Daniels from Huntsville, AL: Mr. Bragg, when did you start writing IT'S ALL OVER?

Rick Bragg: I've been writing down bits and pieces of it for years, just thoughts and memories. I guess about two years ago I began writing it in earnest.


Ken from Miami: What was your mother's response to the book?

Rick Bragg: She was very proud. She was not saddened by it, which I was afraid of. But she's a little embarrassed by having her picture in bookstores across the country.


Laura Griffin from Ann Arbor: Mr. Bragg, I am a great admirer of your writing. I am contemplating journalism school but have been told that the best school is actual life practice. What's your take on the benefits of journalism school?

Rick Bragg: I think that the rhetoric is that you don't need school, but the editors that do the hiring are impressed by them. I'm not sure school is better than doing it yourself, but people that do the hiring are still impressed by journalism school. So, in a cold-blooded way, it is a good thing.


Raymond B. from Hartford, CT: Your story focuses on an oft-overlooked portion of our society -- white trash. Unlike many minorities, they receive very little sympathy, as if they have chosen to be poor. Did you experience any discrimination growing up? Also, do you see a change in this attitude? Congratulations on your success!

Rick Bragg: A good question. I experienced a great deal of discrimination, and I don't see any progress in that area. Snobbery over race is unconscionable, and an embarrassment, but snobbery over class is acceptable, though it's just as wrong.


Patrick from Charlottesville: How different was the experience of writing a book as opposed to an article for you? What were the major differences, and when did you feel your career as a journalist helped you out?

Rick Bragg: The differences were of freedom. There's a greater freedom in the memoir that you just don't have in most newspaper stories. I think it helped all the way through the book. The only difference is that the questions you ask are of yourself.


Joe from Bakersfield: In what way have your personal experiences influenced the type of stories you cover for the Times?

Rick Bragg: I think that growing up poor you have a working knowledge of people in trouble, of poverty, of human rights abuses, those things. I think I'm naturally drawn to those stories because of the way I grew up.


John from Brooklyn: Do you have a story that you hold near and dear in your memory, more than some of the others?

Rick Bragg: I think the image that I painted of my mother dragging me through the cotton fields on a cotton sack is my favorite image. It's not a well-rounded story, but it's just something I like to think about.


Dennis Firestine from Bronx, NY: Was there any part of the book that you found particularly difficult to write, either because of faulty memory or inability to get at your core thought or because there was too much pain involved? Did you experience writer's block at any point?

Rick Bragg: All the sections of the book that had to do with dying were the hardest. I had a kind of writer's block there.


Renee from Chicago: I loved your book, Mr. Bragg. It really touched me, and I, too, grew up in a poor family. Thanks for a great book. Have you read ANGELA'S ASHES yet?

Rick Bragg: I have, and like thousands and thousands of others, I thought it was a great story.


Shawn from San Diego: What kind of stories are you working on right now? I'm just finishing ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTIN', and it is magnificent.

Rick Bragg: I am taking some time off for the book tour, but I'll go back to writing stories about the Deep South as soon as possible - I don't want to get fired.


Sharene from Tulsa: Did you ever dream that you would come this far? And how does it feel now that you've gotten there?

Rick Bragg: Well, I'm not real sure where I'm at, but no, I didn't think my luck would be as great as it's been. And I'm very grateful for what's been.


Greg from Upton: How competitive were you with your brothers growing up? What do they think of your success?

Rick Bragg: We were competitive on the ball field, but even though our lives have turned out very different, I think they are both proud of me in their own ways.


Larson from Arlington: I read that you bought your mother a house with your advance for ALL OVER BUT THE SHOUTIN'. What did you buy yourself?

Rick Bragg: Well, nothing. It wasn't that big an advance! I took the money left over and paid off my brother Sam's mortgage. I also paid to rebuild my brother Mark's house, which had burned down. So frankly, there wasn't much left after that. It's their story that I stole, so they deserved it.


Mark Kegler from Wisconsin: The memory is an amazing protective device - do you have an impression of how your memory worked in the creation of this memoir?

Rick Bragg: I think my memory works with the same checks and balances as anyone who is dealing with something painful.


Steven from Merced, CA: Has your mother visited New York City since the Pulitzer Awards ceremony?

Rick Bragg: Yeah, she came with me to a publication party. She didn't want to, but I guilted her into it. The New York Times editor who threw the party said, "Don't come unless you bring your mom." Everyone treats her very well when she comes to New York, I think because they see her as someone who's good. So she really likes New Yorkers. She calls New York "my city."


Moderator from barnesandnoble.com: Thanks for taking the time out of your book tour to check in with us, Rick Bragg. Please come again. Any final comments?

Rick Bragg: I'm grateful that people have responded to the story the way they have, and that they see something important in it. I appreciate the chance to talk about it. Goodnight.


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The questions, discussion topics, and author biography that follow are intended to enhance your group's reading of Rick Bragg's All Over but the Shoutin', a haunting memoir about growing up dirt-poor in the deep South, and about struggling to leave the past behind while still deeply tied to it through bonds of love and responsibility.

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Katrina_Shalom_Seach More than 1 year ago
My Dad gave me this book years ago for Christmas when it first came out, saying "I'd never heard of it, but it seemed like it might be a good read." I was working in Bolivia at the time as a Peace Corps volunteer, and was thrilled to have some new reading material. I was blown away by the writing. The only way I can describe it is by saying that this book is like gourmet food. The way Rick Bragg puts things into words is so fresh and unique, and he described a world I didn't know but instantly felt a part of. For me, this is one of those books I always return to and enjoy more and more. I'm purposely not sharing what happens in it, because it is such a treat to have the whole thing fresh and unexpected, and I don't want to mar the experience for any new readers. Plus any description I give would come across as deplorably flat. Like trying to describe the beauty of spring to someone who has only experienced winter - there are no proper words to describe the sensory lushness. I lent this to a fellow volunteer/writer friend - who ultimately went on to become an established well-known newspaper reporter -- and he was equally smitten. "I just can't believe how good this guy is!" he shared. "Man, that's good writing." He went on to lend my book to another friend, who lent it to another. After a while, everyone lost track of where my copy was, it had been lent to so many. So I bought the first of many replacement copies. If you lend it out (which you will) don't expect to get it back. Equally good is the prequel, Ava's Man. My reporter friend was lucky enough to meet Rick Bragg once, and I hope to do the same some fine day, just to express to him how much I enjoy his work. (Again, the food metaphor -- if a meal is outstanding, I always seek the cook out.) Get this! I'm a little jealous of you, reader. You get to read this for the first time. Enjoy every second and linger in the words ... ~Katrina
Pegeen5 More than 1 year ago
Rick Bragg is a just wonderfully gifted writer. Isn't it just great that he has used his wonderful gift! I just happen to be the age of his mother, a mother myself,a Yankee, and am going to give this book to a Southern Woman who could just use a good book about now! I would think that there are a lot of us out here who can identify with that special woman who is his momma!!
SamTN More than 1 year ago
I found myself laughing or crying throughout reading this book. Why? Because it brings to life so many of my friends and relatives here in the South over the years. We all know a Mark. Many of us have a relative who just never wore those blamed dentures. (That would include my own father-in-law.) This could have been their story. And the narrator is dead-on when he does the voice of Rick Bragg's mother - she (he) sounds just like the older women in our family. I would recommend this book to all Southerners.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I do not even know where to begin...From the minute that I started reading this book, I could not put it down. It came with me everywhere - work, the subway, a walk to the supermarket. Bragg was able to capture his experiences from birth to adulthood in such an eloquent manner. He allows the reader to truly feel and understand the path that his life has taken. My words do not even begin to credit Bragg with the appropriate praise that his work is due.
Anonymous More than 1 year ago
THis is just a wonderful Mother's Day gift. It is truly inspirational and shows how a mother will do whatever it takes to provide for her children under unimaginable circumstances. Inspiratinal as she just never gave up and never complained. Rick Brag is a great writer I can not get enought of his books. This is just a great book. If you loved To Kill A Mockingbird you will love this also.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I enjoyed reading All Over but the Shoutin because it was educatioinal. I learned a lot about the South and southern living. The impact this has on society today and in the past is that one can overcome obstacles in life if the effort is applied.
Guest More than 1 year ago
I would recommend this book to anyone. I chose this book because some of the thing reminded me of stories my grandmother used to tell me when I was a little girl. And because I enjoy a good memior. This is a very interesting story of how a boy came from the poor skirts of town and was determind to make it and to stay out. Some one that had felt his whole life that he wasn't good enough for society. He not only proved himself wrong he proved everyone else wrong also. He will make it no matter what he ha to do. He will be somebody- he is somebody.
Guest More than 1 year ago
This is a great story from a great author. He took us to his home town and told us of his trials and tribulations and life as a young man and up until the time he wrote this book. He grew up in a poor family with and alcoholic father who was never around and bragg's mother would have to raise bragg and his brother's by herself. They had a rough life but they perservered through hard times and everything turned out pretty good. Bragg went on to become a writer for several newspapers and also an author as well. His brother's turned out decent except for his youngest brother Mark who turned out just like his dad. Sam got a good job and got married and took care of his family.
Anonymous 4 months ago
Inspirational and real, so honest and inviting.
msjoanna on LibraryThing 7 months ago
This lovely and well-written memoir took me right back to the South. Bragg's story is one rarely heard from someone of his generation -- a man from poor roots in Possum Trot, Alabama manages to become a journalist and "make it" to the New York Times and a Pulitzer Prize through talent for writing without getting formal educational credentials. Reading the story, you expect Bragg to have been born in the 1930s, not the 1960s. Bragg is obviously more comfortable telling the stories of strangers than he is telling his own stories -- the second half of the book reads much more smoothly when he begins reliving some of his favorite feature stories rather than his own family's life. Nonetheless, the entire book was enjoyable.
piefuchs on LibraryThing 7 months ago
This book is mediocre. Towards the end I was quite annoyed by the author's tendancy to romanticize the literal and educational poverty of his family.
edwin.gleaves on LibraryThing 7 months ago
One of the great southern autobiographies, right up there with Willie Morris.
PLloggerC on LibraryThing 7 months ago
This memoir by Rick Bragg tells of his life growing up in the South. He was raised in a poor family by a mother who dearly loved her children. This book reads like a love song to his mother. Braggs father was a drunk and alternated between being neglectful and abusive. His mother sacraficed everything to raise her 3 boys as best she could. The memoir chronicles Braggs climb out of poverty and into the world of journalism where he ultimately wins the Pulitzer Prize. But all along the way, he gives credit and thanks to his mother for her love and sacrafice.
runreadrepeat on LibraryThing 7 months ago
I began Bragg's trilogy with Ava's Man last year. All Over is just as well written, just as beautiful, but tinged with more sadness and a little less humor. It is an excellant beginning for Bragg's story that will end with Prince of Frogtown. Bragg is one of the best storytellers of our age, and a pretty nice guy. If you ever have the chance to see him at a book signing or event, I recommend you go!
vlawhead on LibraryThing 7 months ago
Rick Bragg, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist, writes his memoir....great read and an inspiration, but really a love story dedicated to his mother who raised her boys while facing adversity most of us will never imagine.
msf59 on LibraryThing 7 months ago
"The first memory I have is of a tall blond woman who drags a canvas cotton sack along an undulating row of rust-colored ground, through a field that seems to reach into the back forty of forever." The author was three years old at the time and the blond was his beloved Momma. This memoir is dedicated to her and you can feel the love and respect he has, for this tough incredible woman, as she struggles dirt-poor, to raise her three boys, while an absent father, is off on another drunk. Bragg is an acclaimed reporter for The New York Times, among other renowned newspapers and this is his story. He's a rustic poet and through his lovely prose, you will be sniffling and chuckling at regular intervals. Great stuff!
mazda502001 on LibraryThing 7 months ago
This was a brilliant book and I really enjoyed it.Back Cover Blurb:This haunting, harrowing, gloriously moving recollection of a life on the American margin, is the story of Rick Bragg, who grew up dirt-poor in northeastern Alabama, seemingly destined for either the cotton-mills or the penitentiary, and instead became a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter for The New York Times. It is the story of Bragg's father, a hard-drinking man with a murderous temper and the habit of running out on the people who needed him most.But at the center of this soaring memoir is Bragg's mother, who went eighteen years without a new dress so that her sons could have school clothes and picked other people's cotton so that her children wouldn't have to live on welfare alone. Evoking these lives - and the country that shaped and nourished them - with artistry, honesty, and compassion, Rick Bragg brings home the love and suffering that lie at the heart of every family. The result is unforgettable.
amachiski on LibraryThing 7 months ago
This book was good but not great. The memoir by Rick Bragg tells of his life growing up in the South. He was raised in a poor family by a mother who dearly loved her children. His father was a drunk and alternated between being neglectful and abusive. His mother sacraficed everything to raise her 3 boys as best she could. The memoir chronicles Braggs climb out of poverty and into the world of journalism where he ultimately wins the Pulitzer Prize. But all along the way, he gives credit and thanks to his mother for her love and sacrifice. I felt Bragg was trying to tell the story of his mother but he kept veering back to himself and his accomplishments while leaving his Mom behind in the dust of Alabama.
HankIII on LibraryThing 7 months ago
I read this one awhile back, and I loved it. I tend to like confessional autobiographies that don't shy away from flaws and shortcomings, and so I tend to be partial to works that are. Bragg's book is all that and then some--growing up poor in Alabama, small town with the those who have too much and those who have too little, and having to deal with it with the support of his mother. It's tough writing, gritty, and in your face with no apologies and lots of personal pain. GREAT!(yeah, I know this was a lame critique, but I didn't know where to begin with this one--so overwhelming and so moving)
AdonisGuilfoyle on LibraryThing 7 months ago
Technically, writing this memoir of his own childhood and career lead Rick Bragg to go back and fill in the blanks of his family history in 'Ava's Man', but it works just as well reading them in the wrong order. Here, the family members he mentions in passing, like grandparents Ava and Charlie and various aunts, are now old friends, warmly recollected from the stories of the heyday. In 'All Over Bar The Shoutin', we learn what life threw at the author's mother Margaret Marie, born to Ava and walked around the house by Charlie to inherit his best qualities in 'Ava's Man'. She married a shiftless drunk, haunted by his experiences in Korea, who kept abandoning and reclaiming his young family before finally leaving them for good when Rick was a young boy. No great loss, but the instability and fear obviously scarred his children for life. This book is the author's way of laying the ghost of his father to rest, by telling him - and his readers - 'Look how I've turned out, look what I've done with my life'.I love Rick Bragg's writing, but his story is just a little bit too 'me, me, me' to feel comfortable while reading it. That may sound like an odd objection to a memoir, but the pride in his family and his people that shone through in 'Ava's Man' is somehow tainted here by the way Bragg regurgitates his Pulitzer Prize winning news stories and leaves his long-suffering mother behind in Alabama. Neither his pride nor his modesty are misplaced - he admits to being selfish and driven by his own personal demons to succeed - but it does get tiresome after a point. His early childhood with Abigail (Ava) and his brothers is the best part, mixing Bill Bryson with 'The Grapes of Wrath'. After that, I would have lost interest, but for the occasional narrative gem. I don't know why, but this exchange with a laconic fishing guide named Jimmy had me in stitches: 'I've et dog,' he said, unsolicited. 'Why?' I asked. 'It was in my yard,' he said, and that was it for a while. I am not making any of this up.' Like his grandfather Charlie, Bragg can tell a good story with comic timing. He can also convey honest emotion in his journalism, and I must admit I was nearly brought to tears on a couple of occasions, too.It's the way he tells 'em.
Hagelstein on LibraryThing 7 months ago
Rick Bragg can write - with style. About growing up poor and basically fatherless, about the south, about reporting, about Florida, Haiti, New York. But mostly about people. And all with a chip on his shoulder. A joy to read.
kboucher on LibraryThing 10 months ago
this book was just ok. Got a little bored with his story. He should get a little therapy to deal with his relationship with his mother. Interesting to google him and read what happened with him after he won the Pulitzer Prize.
mfassold on LibraryThing 10 months ago
I loved this book--I use this book as an example of voice. Rick Bragg grew up dirt poor which is something that I share with him. We have traveled in the same shoes.
fantasmogirl on LibraryThing 11 months ago
Though I'm desperately disappointed that Bragg actually worked with Jessica Lynch on her "biography", I still have to give him due props for the excellence of this piece. He brings forth the emotion his entire family held back and succumbed to during his upbringing. It made me laugh and cry and gave me a warm fuzzy for a mother who struggled, worked, sacrificed and loved hard to make sure her children got as much as she could give them.
Aetatis on LibraryThing 11 months ago
One of the best personal stories written by and about Alabama and growing up in the 1960s-1970s.